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    Patriarchinity Chapter 12: Covering vs. Cover-ups

    Posted by Yaacov on June 6, 2009 at 10:31am
    in Patriarchinity

    Patriarchinity Chapter 12: Covering vs. Cover-ups

    by Chris Jacob Schaefer ©2009

    Up till now, much of this book has focused upon the identity of the Ruach HaQodesh. Why? She is perhaps the most mysterious Divine Being, and yet most often misunderstood. While it does not necessarily prevent someone from becoming a believer, misunderstandings of Who the Divine Elohim is (and are) can hinder us from the intimacy that we as priests and priestesses need with our Elohim.

    So why the secrecy? Why is the gender of the Ruach HaQodesh hidden from plain view, or more accurately, hidden in plain view?

    It must be remembered that the husband is a covering over the wife. Even at the beginning of the 20th century, the husband’s name-covering was applied to his wife-- Example: “Mrs. Thomas Edison.” Where did such a practice come from? From the understood subordination of the wife to the husband and husband’s protection over the subordinate wife. So how does that apply to our perceptions of the Ruach HaQodesh? After all, She does the Father’s will, She acts in accordance with Him, She goes where He sends Her, and She serves as His eyes/scouts (Zech 4:10).

    Timtheos Aleph/First Timothy 2:12
    12 But I do not allow a woman to teach, or to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

    Timtheos Aleph/First Timothy 2:12 (Lamsa translation from the Aramaic)
    “I do not think it seemly for a woman to debate publicly or otherwise usurp the authority of men, but she should be silent.”

    The main point is that Shaul/Pallu is affirming the divine order of things-- a husband is over his wife. Naturally it would follow that another man’s wife or a single woman is not an authority over another man (not her husband). [The context is that of handling theological disagreements in an assembly of mortals where both genders involved are subject to imperfections (very unlike divine Elohim). So basically a woman is not to cause a scene.] The overarching principle though is that the man is the default authority over his wife.

    To get a grasp on this, it is important to learn about the nature of women’s headcoverings, and then apply that to understanding the Ruach HaQodesh, based upon Her role(s).

    Beresheeth/Genesis 24:65
    65 For she had said to the servant, What man is this that walks in the field to meet us? And the servant had said, It is my master: therefore she took a veil* and covered herself.
    * (RSTNE Note): Sign of authority and submission.

    So, we can see that before Rivkah was married to Yitzchak, she considered it important to show that she was yet under her dad’s authority and protection.

    Root/Ruth 3:9
    9 And he said, Who are you? And she answered, I am Root your female servant: spread your covering [kawnawf’] over your female servant; for you are a near kinsman redeemer.

    And in this instance, Root made a request of Boaz for marriage. Kawnawf literally means an edge or extremity of a wing, garment or bed-clothing; a flap-- which implies that the covering that Root desired, was a part of the covering of which Boaz was covering himself -- either his mantle/cloak or blanket. So in essence, Boaz’ identification was the same identification that Root also wanted for herself. If someone saw Boaz lying down in the moonlight, he would identify the shadowy figure(s) as Boaz even though in reality it would have been both Boaz and Root.

    Could it be that the story of Root and Boaz gives us a hint as to why YHWH allowed masculine pronouns to “cover” the Ruach HaQodesh in the Greek manuscripts and Aramaic Peshitta of the Gospel of Yochanan/John?

    Song of Shlomo/Song of Solomon 5:7
    7 The watchmen that went around the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me.

    Here the forcible removal of the woman’s veil by men not her husband nor her children was considered a violation on par with a beating.

    Devarim/Deuteronomy 21:10-13
    10 "When you go forth to war against your enemies, and YHWH your Elohim has delivered them into your hands, and you have taken them captive,
    11 And see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her, that you would have her to be your wife;
    12 Then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head, and trim her nails;
    13 And she shall put off the garment of her captivity, and shall remain in your bayit, and bewail her Father and her mother a full month: and after that you shall go in to her."

    When a woman was captured, her hair was shorn to show that the covering/protection/authority of her former husband had been removed. Additionally the covering/garment that she wore in her native country was to be removed (and susbsequently replaced by the garments of her new residence). It is significant that her former life in her native country was dually considered “her captivity” (as also with the act of capturing her in time of war). But it wasn’t until her new husband brought her into his house that she was no longer considered a captive. So once she was brought into the freedom of her new husband’s house, then that is when her natural covering of her hair was removed, and it is also when the garments of her former captivity were removed. She wasn’t walking about the house naked for a month, so of course she had a new covering on her body and her head; in the meantime, her natural hair covering was growing afresh. When the woman’s hair grew anew, it was a tangible acknowledgment of her having a new husband and her newfound glory. So before wartime, the foreign woman’s hair and garments (which would include a headcovering) represented her original husband’s authority and protection over her; after she was taken by a Yisraelite man, then her replacement garments and new hair represented her new husband’s authority and protection

    In the following passage we shall see that in the assembly of believers, when a woman prayed or prophesied without a head covering, it was as if she were taken captive. The question is then: taken captive by who or what?

    Qorintyah Aleph/First Corinthians 11:5-15
    5 But every woman that makes prayers, or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head: for that is the same as if she were shaven.
    6 For if the woman does not have a head covering, let her also be shorn: but if it is a shame for a woman to be shorn, or shaven, let her be covered.
    7 For a man indeed ought not to veil* his head, because he is the image and glory of YHWH: but the woman is the glory of the man.
    8 For the man is not from the woman; but the woman from the man.
    9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
    10 For this cause ought the woman to have a symbol of authority on her head because of the unclean fallen demons.**
    11 Nevertheless neither is the man independent of the woman, neither the woman independent of the man, in YHWH.
    12 For as the woman is from the man, even so is the man also through the woman; but all things are from YHWH.
    13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper that a woman prays to YHWH uncovered?
    14 Does not nature itself teach you, that, if a man has long hair***, it is a shame to him?
    15 But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory for her: for her hair is given to her as a covering.

    *(RSTNE note) With a hang-me-down veil, or long hanging frontal hair.
    ** (RSTNE note)T his is a clear reference back to Beresheeth/Genesis 6 where women who were not under a spiritual authority, or covering like the one provided for them by Noah, were molested and had demons that cohabitated with them. Due to the reality of unclean demons desiring to physically violate and emotionally scar women through vaginal entry, women are strongly urged to do what is proper and not make this a contentious issue
    like some who feel this is not important.
    *** (RSTNE note) Worn like a woman, but OK for Nazarite vows and such other pursuits of YHWH.

    Since a woman’s long hair is her glory, and the shaving of her hair is her shame, then it is obvious that her hair is a clear identifier of her femininity.

    Now there is a hidden phenomenon in cultures where women wear headcoverings that is not apparent to the general public. When a wife is in and at home, her husband and children frequently see her without her headcovering-- she has to take it off sooner or later for basic hygene, sleep and other transitions. Other than during the special activities of praying and prophecying, if the wife’s head is occasionally uncovered, it is truly a sign of intimacy between her and her husband and motherly intimacy between her and her children. And when her hair is fully visible to those closest to her, that is when her femininity and glory are most visible.

    Likewise, when we as children of Father YHWH are are “at home” and intimate (trusting and obedient) with our Heavenly Mother, that is when She reveals Her Motherly femininity and glory to us in a way that outsiders and even “close relatives” cannot yet see!

    When a woman’s hair is covered, there’s a lack of visibility; the essence of her femininity is not as intense as when her hair is fully revealed. Cultures where headcoverings are the norm, are especially attuned to this fact. So similarly, there’s a lack of visibility of the Ruach HaQodesh’s femininity-- this is achieved by the absence of pronouns, specifically feminine pronouns in the majority of Scriptures where She is spoken of. By design, that phenomenon serves as a covering of sorts, because She is under the Father’s authority and direction. Her femininity is really only for Her children to see-- if they are willing to search it out.

    However, it is an entirely different thing to altogether cover the woman’s face as is done in some Muslim nations, some of which even cover the eyes with a cloth screen. Hypothetically, if I (as a bearded male) wanted to disguise myself in Saudi Arabia, without shaving my beard, I could easily pass for a woman-- Afghanistan, even easier. The point in such an illustration, is that the woman’s face is also a key identifier to a woman’s femininity. If the face isn’t visible, then neither is her femininity-- especially with the draped garments and eye screens. Western nations and even less fanatical Islamic nations view the practice of covering the woman’s face as oppressive. Oddly enough, there are some instances where the scribes and translators oppressed Scripture by censoring the familial references to Elohim, and in doing so effectively tried to cover the Ruach’s face (so to speak). Let’s take a look at some examples. [In using the ISR in the following examples, I’m not trying to pick on the ISR, it’s generally a good version-- however with the selected verses, nearly all other versions have similar errors.]

    The tranlators told us that Yeshayahu/Isaiah 54:5 supposedly said:
    “For your Maker is your Husband, YHWH of hosts is His Name, and the Set apart One of Yisrael is your Redeemer. He is called the Elohim of all the earth.” (ISR)

    But Yeshayahu/Isaiah 54:5 actually says:
    “For your Maker is your HusbandS* YHWH tzevaoth is His Name; and your RedeemerS** the Kadosh-One of Yisrael; The Elohim of the whole earth shall He be called” (RSTNE)

    * (RSTNE note) Hebrew: ki baalecha asechah, or “because your Husbands are your Maker.” We see the plurality of one again in the term “husbands.” Also the Maker is YHWH, and His Redeemer, which in the Hebrew is ve goalecha, or literally “your Redeemers.” We see the Father and Son in this verse as one in both cases.
    ** (RSTNE note) Goalecha, or literally “your Redeemers.”

    Most translators never render those key words plural, because, they cannot make sense of it while they remain stuck in the man-made systems of monotheism, untitarianism, or trinitarianism.

    So what that passage means by using the term husbandS, is of course consecutive husbands for the WHOLE house of Yisrael. How can this be?

    The Torah is the covenant with the Yisrael as a unified Whole house where YHWH is the King and metaphorical Husband of all of Yisrael as a Whole.

    In 1 Schmuel/1st Sammuel 8, the entity of the Whole house of Yisrael rejected YHWH as King, but was not yet metaphorically divorced from YHWH, the metaphorical Husband.

    Significantly, in 1st Kings 12 The entity of Yisrael as a unified Whole ceased to exist as it was split into the two sovereign kingdoms of Yahudah and Ephrayimic Yisrael. Even though the metaphorical bride of Yisrael became two brides, YHWH did not yet divorce them from Himself at that point, and honored His part of the covenant with each metaphorical bride.

    Through idolatry, the entity of the sovereign kingdom of Ephrayimic Yisrael completely broke the covenant with YHWH. So, because of that, YHWH metaphorically divorced the entity of the Ephrayimic kingdom of Yisrael from Himself (Yermeyahu/Jerimiah 8:3).

    In Yehezkel/Ezekiel 16 The remaining entity of the kingdom of Yahudah was recorded as becoming even worse than Ephrayimic Yisrael. YHWH sentenced the kingdom of Yahudah, to death for idolatrous adultery-- specifically v 38 and 40. Yahudah no longer existed as a sovereign kingdom, but only existed as a remnant house in exile (Yehezkel/Ezekiel 14:22).

    Yehezkel/Ezekiel 23 affirms the capital punishment of the kingdoms of Yahudah and Ephramic Yisrael (hovever a remnant house of Yisrael (Ephrayim but more specifically Yahudah) does remain in v 48 but but neither as a kingdom.

    In Yehezkel/Ezekiel 37, the deaths of the kingdoms of Yahudah and Ephramic Yisrael are affirmed as complete where the Yisrael as Whole house is acknowledged as dead in v. 11.

    Yisrael as a Whole house is prophesied as being resurrected and re-unified (Yahudah and Ephrayimic Yisrael echad) via the Ruach HaQodesh (Yehezkel/Ezekiel 37). The Shepherd-King [Yehoshua] is central to this reunified and resurrected Whole Yisrael.

    As is summarily communicated in the Whole B'rit Hadashah, the resurrected Yehoshua is indeed the metaphorical Husband for Yisrael as a Whole.

    So the first covenant was between YHWH and Yisrael as a Whole.
    Yisrael as a Whole died (not the remnant). The covenant, while intended for Yisrael as a Whole, then only existed with the remnant. Yisrael as a Whole gets resurrected and re-unified. The faithful remnant is then one with the resurrected/reunified Whole. The New/Renewed covenant was sealed with the blood of Yehoshua, the resurrected Husband. So YHWH was the first metaphorical Husband and Yehoshua is the second metaphorical Husband. There is no breaking of Torah when the Whole House of Yisrael has two consecutive Husbands. Yisrael as a unified Whole entity was dead and then is made alive. Yehoshua, the second Husband was dead, and is made alive. So death and resurrection on both fronts make it possible and kosher for the Whole of the commonwealth of Yisrael to have Two consecutive Husbands.

    There is another possible explanation for the word Redeemers in Yeshayahu/Isaiah 54:5. To explain this we must re-examine the word “Comforter” (describing the Ruach HaQodesh) which occurs in Yochanan 14:26 and 15:26.
    From Younan’s interlinear Aramaic translation):
    1. PRQL+A has been confused with the Greek ‘Paraclitus’, meaning ‘Advocate.’ The Aramaic construct PRQL+A is derived from two Aramaic roots: PRQ (‘To end’, ‘To finish’ or ‘To save’, see Strong’s Concordance entries 6561 and 6562) and L+A (‘The curse’, cf. Marqus 11:21, Matti 5:44, ‘A Compendious Syriac Dictionary’, page 236, and Oraham’s Dictionary, page 250). PRQL+A means ‘One who ends the curse.’ By the indwelling of the Ruach HaQodesh, our fallen nature has been redeemed from the curse of Adam.

    So Redemption is completed both by Yehoshua and the Ruach HaQodesh. Yehoshua by His life, death ,burial, and resurrection; and the Ruach HaQodesh by Her part in the Resurrection of Her Son Yehoshua, and by Her active residence in the bodies of believers. That would make both Yehoshua and the Ruach HaQodesh the Redeemers.

    Here are some more examples of censorship.

    The Translators told us that Kohelet/Ecclesiastes 12:1a supposedly said:
    “Remember your Creator in the days of your youth...” (ISR)

    But Kohelet/Ecclesiastes 12:1a actually says:
    “Remember your CreatorS* in the day of your youth...” (RSTNE)

    *(Hebrew: Et Borecha: your Creators” not just “Creator”).
    בוראיך
    Eth= Alef Taf
    Borecha= Bet + Vav + Resh + Alef + Yud and + Kaf

    The scribes told us that Yeshayahu/Isaiah 45:9-10 supposedly said :
    “Woe to him that strives with his Maker! (a potsherd with the potsherds of the earth.) Does clay say to him it, ‘What are you making?’ Or your handiwork say ‘He has no hands’? Woe to him who says to his father, ‘What are you bringing forth?’ Or to the woman, ‘What are you labouring over?’” (ISR)

    But Yeshayahu/Isaiah 45:9-10 really says:
    9 “Woe to him that strives with His MakerS!*(RSTNE) An earthenvessel that strives with Him who made it! Shall the clay say to Him that fashioned it, 'Why did you make it like this?' Or, the handiwork saying to the Maker of it, 'He has no hands?'
    10 Woe to him that says to his Father, 'Why did you beget me?' Or, to a Mother, 'Why have you birthed [khool ] me?'”

    *Dead Sea Scrolls

    Did you catch that? The scribes who came after the Dead Sea Scrolls, REMOVED the plural reference to suit their own preconceived monotheistic notions instead of preserving YHWH’s own henotheistic words!
    And with the remez (hint) of verse 10, it is clearly a reference to both the Heavenly Father and the Heavenly Mother. The word birthed (often poorly translated as conceived in most other translations) is the Hebrew word khool which means: to twist or whirl (in a circular or spiral manner), i.e. (specifically) to dance, to writhe in pain especially in birthing. Born again believers are not conceived nor are they re-conceived by the Ruach HaQodesh, but rather, they are re-born or re-birthed by the Ruach HaQodesh.

    Most bible translations will claim that Yeshayahu/Isaiah 48:16 supposedly says something like this:
    “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;; from the time that it was, I was there. And now the Master YHWH has sent Me, and His Spirit” (ISR)

    But what Yeshayahu/Isaiah 48:16 actually says is:
    Come you near unto Me, hear you this; From the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time that She was, there am I; and now the Master YHWH has sent me and His Ruach. (combination HRV/RSTNE)
    [This verse is covered more in depth in Patriarchinity chapter 6]

    As for the "I" speaking in various Tanakh passages, that does not necessarily prove singularity, because One Being can be speaking for the Group and representing the Group-- especially in a Patriarchal system. Not to mention that there are several sections of "I, even I" or "I, and I" which would indicate Father and Son (Beresheeth/Genesis 9:9; Yeshayahu/Isaiah 43:11, 43:25, 48:15). If there is a Father and Son, then Mother is clearly implicit (Yeshayahu/Isaiah 51:12).

    Most bible translations will claim that Isaiah 42:5 says something like this:
    "Thus said the El, YHWH, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, who gives breath to the people on it, and spirit to those who walk on it:" (ISR)

    But according to the Dead Sea Scrolls,
    Yeshayahu/Isaiah 42:5 actually says:
    “Thus says the El AND Elohim who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread the earth and its produce, who gives breath (neshamah) to the people upon it, and spirit (ruha) to those walk on it.”
    (The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible – The Oldest Known Bible Translated For The First Time Into English, translated and with commentary by Martin Abegg Jr., Peter Flint & Eugene Ulrich [HarperOne; 1 edition, November 17, 1999], p. 337; ) [bold and capital emphasis mine]

    So in the copies that came after the Dead Sea Scrolls, the scribes added the name of YHWH in place of Elohim in that verse (while substituting the name of YHWH with Adonai in many other verses)! The discovery of the Dead Sea Scroll distinction between El and Elohim, in the same verse, DEMOLISHES the popular but erroneous allegation that the word Elohim is supposedly limited to majesty while excluding plurality.

    There seems to be a disturbing pattern where Bible translations are all to often distorted to HIDE the obvious plurality of Elohim. This was accomplished both on the part of Jewish Scribes and Trinitarian translators who obeyed their own pre-concieved monotheistic notions rather than the actual henotheistic text!
    Just as the Talmudic Jews overcompensate by adding laws that are not in Torah, so did the scribes and translators overcompensate by forcing singularity on a text that did not have singularity. They ripped us off!

    So all throughout the entire Tanakh, the Ruach HaQodesh is almost entirely unaccompanied by pronouns, but the lone location where a pronoun does accompany Her, the actual text has the Hebrew feminine equivalent of She (Yeshayahu /Isaiah 48:16).

    How does this play into the Gospels? The best testimonies are often from one’s enemies. According to Talmud Shabbat 116A (see suggested reading), there was a discussion how to destroy the Gospels because they contained The Name [YHWH]. So the rabbis debated which was better: meticulously first slicing out every occurrence of The Name from the Gospels and then burning the remainder of the cut up scrolls; or just burning the Gospels flat out. This unmistakably shows that the Gospels were originally written in Hebrew, not Aramaic nor Greek-- otherwise there’d be no discussion about cutting out of The Name). Now Mattityahu/Matthew, Moshe Yochanan/Mark, and Luka/Luke have no pronouns describing the Ruach HaQodesh anyhow. Yet in the Greek and later Aramaic manuscripts of Yochanan/John, there suddenly turns up masculine pronouns for the Ruach HaQodesh? Would that pattern be consistent with the Tanakh? Absolutely not! And it is especially not consistent with the key Tanakh verses that have been restored in spite of the scribes’ and translators’ selective sabotage. Additionally, the Old Syriac Aramaic Manuscripts for Yochanan have feminine pronouns for the Ruach HaQodesh (See Patriarchinity Chapter 11). Certainly the usage of The Name wasn’t the only thing that the unbelieving Jewish establishment found objectionable in the Gospel of Yochanan. Prediction #1: If and when the Hebrew manuscripts for the Gospel of Yochanan are found, there will either be no pronouns describing the Ruach HaQodesh; or if there are pronouns describing Her, they will be feminine pronouns.

    As demonstrated in Patriarchinty Chapter 11, there was a 5th Gospel: The Gospel According to the Hebrews. And in it the Ruach HaQodesh was referred to by Yehoshua as His “Mother”. The church “fathers” apparently had access to this portion of Scripture and were sure to scoff and criticize it in their writings (despite it being a favorite of the Nazarenes). Well, what did they do with it? Why is it gone? Did they destroy it with the same hostility as the unbelieving Jews destroyed the Hebrew Gospels? Did the Nazarenes bury it or hide it from their persecutors? Prediction #2: If and when an authentic manuscript of the Gospel According to the Hebrews is discovered, there will be feminine pronouns/words describing the Ruach HaQodesh.

    So the questions are: how intimate are we with our Elohim? Are we “at home” enough in the Scriptures that we can see (discern) Mom for Who She is? Can we recognize the Mother who re-birthed us? Or are we relying on the deceit of those who’ve tried to obscure Her identity and glory?


    suggested reading:
    How they destroyed the Hebraic Gospels.


    An excellent study!

    Thanks,

    I was mulling over the idea of including the following on the section that discusses Yeshayahu/Isaiah 54:5.

    There is another possible explanation for the word Redeemers in Yeshayahu/Isaiah 54:5. To explain this we must re-examine the word “Comforter” (describing the Ruach HaQodesh) which occurs in Yochanan 14:26 and 15:26.
    From Younan’s interlinear Aramaic translation):
    “1. PRQL+A has been confused with the Greek ‘Paraclitus’, meaning ‘Advocate.’ The Aramaic construct
    PRQL+A is derived from two Aramaic roots:
    PRQ (‘To end’, ‘To finish’ or ‘To save’, see Strong’s Concordance entries 6561 and 6562) and
    L+A (‘The curse’, cf. Marqus 11:21, Matti 5:44, ‘A Compendious Syriac Dictionary’, page 236, and
    Oraham’s Dictionary, page 250).
    PRQL+A means ‘One who ends the curse.’ By the indwelling of the Ruach HaQodesh, our
    fallen nature has been redeemed from the curse of Adam. “

    So Redemption is completed both by Yehoshua and the Ruach HaQodesh. Yehoshua by His life, death ,burial, and resurrection; and the Ruach HaQodesh by Her part in the Resurrection of Her Son Yehoshua, and by Her active residence in the bodies of believers. That would make both Yehoshua and the Ruach HaQodesh the Redeemers.

    My pause, is that some readers might think this is some sort of "co-redemptrix" explanation on par with mariolatry. (which it isn't). So what do you think?

    Well, that is perfectly logical, since it is Yahweh-ELOHIM who is/are Redeemer(s). Yahweh is described as a Redeemer/Messiah/Saviour and since they are echad it is perfectly natural that they are collectively Redeemer and Redeemers. We have the patriarchal principle in play too since Yah'shua and the RhQ are His Divine agents. As an extension of this, the malakim/angels are redeemers too (as non-divine though supernatural agents) and also human elohim (as non-divine and non-supernatural). The following sermons extrapolate on these principles:

    http://www.nccg.org/mlt/sermons/3_015.html
    http://nccg.org/mlt/sermons/3_062.html

    And I agree, this has nothing to do with any catholic co-redemptrix doctrine - Yahweh is Echad (One) so obviously the whole Elohimhead/Godhead are redemptive. If anything your exegesis just shows how Echad the Father, Mothers and Son are :)

    Here is an exchange that i had with someone recently on this chapter (Objections are in italix):

    O: The only problem I see with it is as I understand it the Ruach covered Mary Since according to my understanding all pagan idols are based on misconceptions of scriptural truths, that would explain why the pagans see the “fertility idol as a female spirit.
    A: This problem is dealt with in Patriarchinity chapter 7


    O: (Joel 2:28-29)“And after this it shall be that I pour out My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men dream dreams, your young men see visions. “And also on the male servants and on the female servants I shall pour out My Spirit in those days.
    Gal 3:28 There is not Yehuḏite nor Greek, there is not slave nor free, there is not male and female, for you are all one in Messiah יהושע."
    Are you implying that YHWH cannot or will not use single or unwed women?

    A:That is not my intention at all. A single, unwed woman is under the covering of her daddy-- providing her dad is a believer. If a single woman has no believing dad, then a believing older brother, a believing older cousin, a believing uncle, a believing brother in law, pastor/rabbi, would be her default covering-- regardless, she is under the covering and authority of her Heavenly Father. A husband or dad serves as a subordinate proxy under Yehoshua, who serves subordinately under Father YHWH.

    O: Please show me if it is there, where these verses specify MARRIED women.
    A:It doesn't. There is not a default prerequisite that the praying or prophesying women be married, however, I believe the ideal arrangement is that the women eventually be married to a believing husband.

    O: [In Judges 4:4-24] It does not say her [Deborah's] earthly covering was involved in participatingin this office. Is this incorrect?
    A: However, it does not say that her husband wasn't involved either. Sometimes authority/protection can be in a behind-the-scenes kind of scenario. Hence Priscilla and Aquilla.

    O: Deborah does not say anything about checking with her earthly husband.
    A: True, but it also doesn't say that she didn't check with her husband. The other way to look at this is the concept of Proxy, which is covered in depth in Patriarchinity chapter 5 Proxy vs. Confusion.
    A Proxy is so echad with the authority over her, that he trusts her to do what is best without him micromanaging her.


    O: Is this correct ? Did 10 thousand men of Yisreal follow Baraq over a woman reminding him of what YHWH said?
    A: One of the main points of the narrative about Devorah and Baraq, is that Baraq was not quite the man that he should have been.

    O: YHWH apparently blessed this since the batle was given unto the hand of Yisrael so we know there was no sin in the camp which means Deborah could not have been in sin over the fact she did not check with her earthly head.
    A: Again, we do not know whether or not she counseled with her husband or not. It is entirely possible that her husband was well aware of her prophetic calling, and that his blessing was with her, a.k.a "Sure, hon, tell Baraq what YHWH tells you, and go where YHWH tells you to go."

    O: Again this appears to be confirmation of Yisreal not having sin in camp ( Deborah not checking with her earthly head.) due to an over whelming victory. Is this incorrect?
    A: I believe her husband (providing he was alive), had confidence in her closeness to YHWH, and confirmed what YHWH spoke to her.

    O: Sisera had every reason to believe this was a safe haven which means Ya'el's earthly head would either have been lead to give her instruction on this matter which the canonized scripture makes no mention of this or she committed an act of war which would have be in direct violation of her husband's treaty, putting her in rebellion to that same treaty. YHWH obviously blessed her hand in this so if this is so how does it fit? Do the Scrolls expound on this?
    A: Ya-el had in essence saved her and Chever's lives. Had she not assisted the winning side, she and her husband could have potentially been killed. Did her husband give her any instruction in an "in case of this, then do that" scenario? who knows, possibly. But even if not, where was her husband? He certainly wasn't in the tent with her, she had to have had some autonomy when he wasn't around. If she had knowledge that Sisra's armies had been defeated (very possible), then she had to act pragmatically-- so she did the best with what she had available. It's entirely possible that Ya-el knew that if Chever would have know what she knew (the defeat of Sisera's armies) then he would have told her to do the same thing ("hmm, what would my husband do if he were in this situation?")

    O: My question is since we know there is nothing new under the sun and we know YHWH is not a respecter of persons, plus there were obviously 10 thousand and one men right there in the vicinity, why did YHWH use two women, who did not check with their earthly covering before making major decisions, which put them in the position of acting under their own authority and literally killing another with their own hands, to do these things? Especially when being in submission to her husband would definitely be betrayed in the case of Ya'el breaking a treaty?
    A: With the case of Devorah, it is not definitive whether or not she checked with her husband.
    As for the case with Ya-el, she did not have the proximity of her husband to ask him what he'd do in the situation that she was in, so she had to do what she knew best given the knowledge that she had.


    O: Messiah Himself choose to reveal Himself to WOMEN FIRST after He was crucified. If you recall your Scripture, Mary of Magdala was the former prostitute He delivered form Legions. I know of no scriptural reference to her having been wed after her redemption.
    A: El'azar was her brother. Regardless, she was a big girl then, I'm sure she knew that El'azar would not object to her going to the tomb. Going to the tomb is different then praying in an assembly or prophesying in an assembly.

    O: "After all, She does the Father’s will, She acts in accordance with Him, She goes where He sends Her, and She serves as His eyes/scouts (Zech 4:10). " Earthly women serve this capacity also. Eze 23:48-49
    (see below)

    A: Agreed, I see no conflict whatsoever.

    O: Some translations say sins or lewdness
    Please check the Dead Sea Scroll and see if it specifies married women.

    A: Yehezqel/Ezekiel 23:48-49(RSTNE)
    48 "In this manner will I cause lewdness to cease out of the
    land, that all remaining women in Yisrael may be taught
    not to do after your lewdness.
    49 And they shall repay your lewdness upon you, and you
    shall bear the sins of your idols: and you shall know that I
    am the Master YHWH."
    When shall they repay the lewness-- in the millenium? Regardless, it says remaining women-- would that possibly imply widowhhood?


    O: "So, we can see that before Rivkah was married to Yitzchak, she considered it important to show that she was yet under her dad’s authority and protection."
    Please explain how you get the reference to this out of that scripture?

    A: The headcovering for women as a sign/symbol for whose authority and protection she was under-- that was the norm for that culture and still is to this day in the mideast. It is not explained in detail in that particular verse because it is understood as a given.

    O: [Regarding the Patriarchinity chapter 12 commentary on Root/Ruth 3:9 and Song of Shlomo 5:7] Interesting analogy. You imply YHWH cannot or will not use a single woman. This denies His authority to lead or use single ladies which denies the covering of a single women. So how is that different then if you literally took my hat/ scarf off?
    A: No, that was not at all my message nor my intent. The main gist of chapter 12, is that the ideal authority and power structure is familial and patriarchal, and that we can better understand Elohim when we get a handle on that.

    O: Are you saying scarves, and hats to show our submission to our husband are not needed as long as we have long hair? That does not make sense due to the number of woman who have hair of varying lengths who are not believers and some of which are out right pagans to the point of being actively and knowingly involved in the black arts.
    A: No, that is not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that the scarves and hats (specifically in a public assembly) symbolize submission to a woman's husband-- this is in addition to the glory of her own natural hair. Whether or not hats and scarves need to be worn by women all the time in public is up for debate and I haven't yet come to a solid conclusion on that matter.

    O: if covering only comes through a man, are you saying it is wrong for a single woman to pray if she does not have an earthly husband? How can she repent, seek the leading of YHWH in th search for a mare, or even know the leading of the Ruach if this is true?
    A: If a woman has no husband, has no believing husband, or has no human male guardian over her, ultimately she has Yehoshua over her, and HE is ultimately over the married woman as well. (and of course Father YHWH is over Yehoshua). So a woman's head covering can also symbolize the authority of her Heavenly Father. So of course she can pray, repent, seek the leading of YHWH in the search for a mate, and of course know the leading of the Ruach.

    O : If you will check your ancient history you will see Israelite women of old covered their faces as well as their heads.
    A: What kind of face covering are you speaking of? If it was an opaque veil over the face, revealing only the eyes, then that was the garb of prostitutes (see the story of Yahudah and Tamar when Tamar was disguising herself as a prostitute Beresheeth/Genesis 38:14) On the other hand If you are speaking of a see-through veil, then that is something entirely different from a prostitute.

    O: I can find nothing in scripture that uses the term “Heavenly mother”. I do find the following verses that all have negative consequences in reference to queen of heaven. It seems reasonable this would be a synonym due to the office. Jeremiah 7:8, 44:17-19,25. are you saying the catholics and ancient babylonians are correct?
    A: The Gospel According to the Hebrews had Yehoshua speaking of the Ruach HaQodesh as His "Mother", and when She came down upon Him, She came from Above, so She is certainly not of the earth nor below, and so logic would indicate that She is from the Heavens, hence, "Heavenly Mother."
    The Catholics and ancient Babylonians were and are of course wrong. The adversary always tries to present a convincing counterfeit-- what better way to do that than to make the counterfeit seem to be the Real Deal. By the way, there is no scripture that outrightly says to worship the Ruach HaQodesh.
    On the other hand, our bodies are called Temples of the Ruach HaQodesh. Believers are priests (and priestesses). If believers are priests and priestesses, and they serve in their bodily temples, then Who is being worshipped in the bodily temples???


    O: "So why the secrecy? Why is the gender of the Ruach HaQodesh hidden from plain view, or more accurately, hidden in plain view?" Could it be the purpose was to lay a snare under the mens feet to prevent them from being fully blessed by an earthly female?
    A: A snare in a couple of different ways. If a man does not recognize the Ruach HaQodesh as his Heavenly Mother, then how can he truly appreciate his wife's wisdom and input? If a woman does not recognize the Ruach HaQodesh's subordinate role to Father YHWH, how can she truly fulfill her subordinate role as a helpmate/helpmeet to her husband?

    Interesting ... I would, if you have the space, include an appendix where such objections are listed and your answers given. Showing contrary arguments and clear answers adds even more credibility to your work.

    A few observations if I might be permitted:

    1. That Mary Magdala was a prostitute is by no means an established fact and many cogently argue that this is RCC tradition.

    2. Re: head-covering and hair - I recommend you take a look at the post here which may give you an interesting perspective on the relationship between hair- and scarf-coverings.



    Yaacov said:
    Here is an exchange that i had with someone recently on this chapter (Objections are in italix):

    O: The only problem I see with it is as I understand it the Ruach covered Mary Since according to my understanding all pagan idols are based on misconceptions of scriptural truths, that would explain why the pagans see the “fertility idol as a female spirit.
    A: This problem is dealt with in Patriarchinity chapter 7


    O: (Joel 2:28-29)“And after this it shall be that I pour out My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men dream dreams, your young men see visions. “And also on the male servants and on the female servants I shall pour out My Spirit in those days.
    Gal 3:28 There is not Yehuḏite nor Greek, there is not slave nor free, there is not male and female, for you are all one in Messiah יהושע."
    Are you implying that YHWH cannot or will not use single or unwed women?

    A:That is not my intention at all. A single, unwed woman is under the covering of her daddy-- providing her dad is a believer. If a single woman has no believing dad, then a believing older brother, a believing older cousin, a believing uncle, a believing brother in law, pastor/rabbi, would be her default covering-- regardless, she is under the covering and authority of her Heavenly Father. A husband or dad serves as a subordinate proxy under Yehoshua, who serves subordinately under Father YHWH.

    O: Please show me if it is there, where these verses specify MARRIED women.
    A:It doesn't. There is not a default prerequisite that the praying or prophesying women be married, however, I believe the ideal arrangement is that the women eventually be married to a believing husband.

    O: [In Judges 4:4-24] It does not say her [Deborah's] earthly covering was involved in participatingin this office. Is this incorrect?
    A: However, it does not say that her husband wasn't involved either. Sometimes authority/protection can be in a behind-the-scenes kind of scenario. Hence Priscilla and Aquilla.

    O: Deborah does not say anything about checking with her earthly husband.
    A: True, but it also doesn't say that she didn't check with her husband. The other way to look at this is the concept of Proxy, which is covered in depth in Patriarchinity chapter 5 Proxy vs. Confusion.
    A Proxy is so echad with the authority over her, that he trusts her to do what is best without him micromanaging her.


    O: Is this correct ? Did 10 thousand men of Yisreal follow Baraq over a woman reminding him of what YHWH said?
    A: One of the main points of the narrative about Devorah and Baraq, is that Baraq was not quite the man that he should have been.

    O: YHWH apparently blessed this since the batle was given unto the hand of Yisrael so we know there was no sin in the camp which means Deborah could not have been in sin over the fact she did not check with her earthly head.
    A: Again, we do not know whether or not she counseled with her husband or not. It is entirely possible that her husband was well aware of her prophetic calling, and that his blessing was with her, a.k.a "Sure, hon, tell Baraq what YHWH tells you, and go where YHWH tells you to go."

    O: Again this appears to be confirmation of Yisreal not having sin in camp ( Deborah not checking with her earthly head.) due to an over whelming victory. Is this incorrect?
    A: I believe her husband (providing he was alive), had confidence in her closeness to YHWH, and confirmed what YHWH spoke to her.

    O: Sisera had every reason to believe this was a safe haven which means Ya'el's earthly head would either have been lead to give her instruction on this matter which the canonized scripture makes no mention of this or she committed an act of war which would have be in direct violation of her husband's treaty, putting her in rebellion to that same treaty. YHWH obviously blessed her hand in this so if this is so how does it fit? Do the Scrolls expound on this?
    A: Ya-el had in essence saved her and Chever's lives. Had she not assisted the winning side, she and her husband could have potentially been killed. Did her husband give her any instruction in an "in case of this, then do that" scenario? who knows, possibly. But even if not, where was her husband? He certainly wasn't in the tent with her, she had to have had some autonomy when he wasn't around. If she had knowledge that Sisra's armies had been defeated (very possible), then she had to act pragmatically-- so she did the best with what she had available. It's entirely possible that Ya-el knew that if Chever would have know what she knew (the defeat of Sisera's armies) then he would have told her to do the same thing ("hmm, what would my husband do if he were in this situation?")

    O: My question is since we know there is nothing new under the sun and we know YHWH is not a respecter of persons, plus there were obviously 10 thousand and one men right there in the vicinity, why did YHWH use two women, who did not check with their earthly covering before making major decisions, which put them in the position of acting under their own authority and literally killing another with their own hands, to do these things? Especially when being in submission to her husband would definitely be betrayed in the case of Ya'el breaking a treaty?
    A: With the case of Devorah, it is not definitive whether or not she checked with her husband.
    As for the case with Ya-el, she did not have the proximity of her husband to ask him what he'd do in the situation that she was in, so she had to do what she knew best given the knowledge that she had.


    O: Messiah Himself choose to reveal Himself to WOMEN FIRST after He was crucified. If you recall your Scripture, Mary of Magdala was the former prostitute He delivered form Legions. I know of no scriptural reference to her having been wed after her redemption.
    A: El'azar was her brother. Regardless, she was a big girl then, I'm sure she knew that El'azar would not object to her going to the tomb. Going to the tomb is different then praying in an assembly or prophesying in an assembly.

    O: "After all, She does the Father’s will, She acts in accordance with Him, She goes where He sends Her, and She serves as His eyes/scouts (Zech 4:10). " Earthly women serve this capacity also. Eze 23:48-49
    (see below)

    A: Agreed, I see no conflict whatsoever.

    O: Some translations say sins or lewdness
    Please check the Dead Sea Scroll and see if it specifies married women.

    A: Yehezqel/Ezekiel 23:48-49(RSTNE)
    48 "In this manner will I cause lewdness to cease out of the
    land, that all remaining women in Yisrael may be taught
    not to do after your lewdness.
    49 And they shall repay your lewdness upon you, and you
    shall bear the sins of your idols: and you shall know that I
    am the Master YHWH."
    When shall they repay the lewness-- in the millenium? Regardless, it says remaining women-- would that possibly imply widowhhood?


    O: "So, we can see that before Rivkah was married to Yitzchak, she considered it important to show that she was yet under her dad’s authority and protection."
    Please explain how you get the reference to this out of that scripture?

    A: The headcovering for women as a sign/symbol for whose authority and protection she was under-- that was the norm for that culture and still is to this day in the mideast. It is not explained in detail in that particular verse because it is understood as a given.

    O: [Regarding the Patriarchinity chapter 12 commentary on Root/Ruth 3:9 and Song of Shlomo 5:7] Interesting analogy. You imply YHWH cannot or will not use a single woman. This denies His authority to lead or use single ladies which denies the covering of a single women. So how is that different then if you literally took my hat/ scarf off?
    A: No, that was not at all my message nor my intent. The main gist of chapter 12, is that the ideal authority and power structure is familial and patriarchal, and that we can better understand Elohim when we get a handle on that.

    O: Are you saying scarves, and hats to show our submission to our husband are not needed as long as we have long hair? That does not make sense due to the number of woman who have hair of varying lengths who are not believers and some of which are out right pagans to the point of being actively and knowingly involved in the black arts.
    A: No, that is not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that the scarves and hats (specifically in a public assembly) symbolize submission to a woman's husband-- this is in addition to the glory of her own natural hair. Whether or not hats and scarves need to be worn by women all the time in public is up for debate and I haven't yet come to a solid conclusion on that matter.

    O: if covering only comes through a man, are you saying it is wrong for a single woman to pray if she does not have an earthly husband? How can she repent, seek the leading of YHWH in th search for a mare, or even know the leading of the Ruach if this is true?
    A: If a woman has no husband, has no believing husband, or has no human male guardian over her, ultimately she has Yehoshua over her, and HE is ultimately over the married woman as well. (and of course Father YHWH is over Yehoshua). So a woman's head covering can also symbolize the authority of her Heavenly Father. So of course she can pray, repent, seek the leading of YHWH in the search for a mate, and of course know the leading of the Ruach.

    O : If you will check your ancient history you will see Israelite women of old covered their faces as well as their heads.
    A: What kind of face covering are you speaking of? If it was an opaque veil over the face, revealing only the eyes, then that was the garb of prostitutes (see the story of Yahudah and Tamar when Tamar was disguising herself as a prostitute Beresheeth/Genesis 38:14) On the other hand If you are speaking of a see-through veil, then that is something entirely different from a prostitute.

    O: I can find nothing in scripture that uses the term “Heavenly mother”. I do find the following verses that all have negative consequences in reference to queen of heaven. It seems reasonable this would be a synonym due to the office. Jeremiah 7:8, 44:17-19,25. are you saying the catholics and ancient babylonians are correct?
    A: The Gospel According to the Hebrews had Yehoshua speaking of the Ruach HaQodesh as His "Mother", and when She came down upon Him, She came from Above, so She is certainly not of the earth nor below, and so logic would indicate that She is from the Heavens, hence, "Heavenly Mother."
    The Catholics and ancient Babylonians were and are of course wrong. The adversary always tries to present a convincing counterfeit-- what better way to do that than to make the counterfeit seem to be the Real Deal. By the way, there is no scripture that outrightly says to worship the Ruach HaQodesh.
    On the other hand, our bodies are called Temples of the Ruach HaQodesh. Believers are priests (and priestesses). If believers are priests and priestesses, and they serve in their bodily temples, then Who is being worshipped in the bodily temples???


    O: "So why the secrecy? Why is the gender of the Ruach HaQodesh hidden from plain view, or more accurately, hidden in plain view?" Could it be the purpose was to lay a snare under the mens feet to prevent them from being fully blessed by an earthly female?
    A: A snare in a couple of different ways. If a man does not recognize the Ruach HaQodesh as his Heavenly Mother, then how can he truly appreciate his wife's wisdom and input? If a woman does not recognize the Ruach HaQodesh's subordinate role to Father YHWH, how can she truly fulfill her subordinate role as a helpmate/helpmeet to her husband?

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