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    Love, versus the “feeling of love”

    Posted by Lev/Christopher on December 28, 2008 at 9:49am
    in Marriage & Relationships

    by Bernd

    There have been a number of posts here where people are caught up in a struggle of trying to find out where that magical “feeling of love” went in their lives, or trying to get a handle on whether they are really loved by their partner.

    These are just my best guesses, and what I’ve found works solidly for me.

    I remember many times in my teenage years where I felt giddily and crazily “in love”. Unfortunately, the girls I fell in love with hardly ever knew it, because I was terrified of rejection (and later years would prove that fear to be very real).

    During our marriage, that feeling went up and down like a roller coaster. When things were going smoothly or well, it blossomed, When we hit rough seas (often my depression and money problems played a big factor), that feeling nose-dived, buried under worry, frustration, anger, pain, and a whole bunch of other stuff. My affairs, in hindsight, were fuelled partially by my desperation to recapture that feeling for at least a few fleeting moment during my “numbed out” periods. Sex had always been a sure-fire way of “feeling” those rushes of “love feelings”, and when Lynda didn’t give me my “fix” as often as I wanted it, I eventually found another substitute supply to take the edge off.

    I’ve heard many times that women have affairs out of love, and men because of sex. I think that appearances are deceiving here. I think both sexes have affairs to try and recapture the “feelings of love” that seem to be slipping away, and men have learned at an early age that they are only safe letting down their emotional walls during sex, and women have learned that one of the few ways they can “feel love” is to “love, and be loved”. The goal is the same, the paths to reach it are different.

    The clues are all around us that this approach to “love” isn’t working the way it “should”. Affairs, breakups, fights, unhappy marriages all struggle with the “love issue”. I think we’ve been all led down the garden path to the swamp, instead of to Eden. I think we have learned all too well to put the cart before the horse.

    Love is a choice first, a feeling second. In my life, the feelings that come back to me when I make loving choices are more magical and awe-inspiring than I ever dreamed possible. This simple truth (a truth to me, that is) has made life so much simpler, and easy - and “genuine love”, I believe, IS easy and simple. I often use the phrase “love is so simple, even a child can do it” as a reality check for me. Our children can give us some of the greatest lessons about love, when we let them.

    Love happens when we make choices that support the emotional, physical, and spiritual well-being of ourselves and others. There is never a clash between what is truly best for us, and truly best for others. If there seems to be a clash, then we haven’t found the loving solution yet; we may be close, but we aren’t all the way there yet.

    Genuine love doesn’t cause pain, but it ALLOWS it to be felt. In fact, love heals by bringing pain to the surface, so that it can teach us what it needs to, and help us heal. So paradoxically, a truly loving relationship is anything but pain-free, but that pain comes from healing, not new cuts. Like helping your partner recover from a bad burn accident. That acceptance and understanding of pain helps kick in another wonderful aspect of love, it’s own pain reliever. Some people call them tears and hugs.:)

    Making loving choices also means not co-operating with other people’s attempts to hurt us. Because when we co-operate in helping someone hurt us, we also play a part in helping them to hurt themselves. Not accepting abuse is loving. Not taking offense at unkind words is loving, as well as not striking back. This part of love also means not accepting other people’s expectations, judgements, criticisms, and demands of us, except for those parts which we can use to help our own well-being, if we accept them by free choice.

    Love doesn’t always give immediate returns. When you plant a rose, it doesn’t blossom the next day. But every seed blossoms, if we allow it to, and nurture it with loving choices in as many aspects of our lives as we can. Some love seeds sprout magically right away, others take more time. But those that take more time usually blow us away in joy when they do blossom, so the wait is worth it.:)

    Love doesn’t ask perfection of us. In fact, it rejoices in our imperfections as much as our strengths. It’s our imperfections that give us empathy with others who are in pain and struggling with life. And empathy is very much part of love. I am smart, and stupid. Both. And both are wonderful parts of me. So when someone calls me stupid now, I can much more easily say “thank you.”:) And inside, I remind myself that what THEY send out, will come back to them as well, without any effort from me.

    I can only give as much love to others as I give myself. This to me is a fundamental rule. The less kindness and caring I give to all the different aspects of me - the child and the grownup - the less kindness and caring I’m able to give to others. When I try, it’s usually by deluding myself I can, and this kind of faking-it “love” always backfires sooner or later.

    All I can do is to try to make as many loving choices as I can today. The more I make each day, the more practice I get, and anything improves with practice - if I’m letting the right “lessons” guide me. I think there is rejoicing in heaven each time one of us catches ourselves, and makes a loving choice in place of a usual “unloving” choice. It makes the world around us just a little bit brighter, and makes our own souls sing just a little bit clearer.

    Finally, love holds many, many paradoxes. We can only keep what we give away. We surrender to win. We let go to receive. Love is the most selfish thing we can give ourselves, and the least selfish. Both at the same time. Many of our problems come from not being selfish enough. When we settle for solutions that aren’t truly loving, we lose out, and so do others. A loving choice always gives us the most back in any situation, and gives others the best, even though logically we may not see how. But this is a limitation of our brains, not love.

    If we want to feel more love than we ever imagined or dare hope we could, there’s a simple path. Make as many loving choices as we can each day, each moment - for ourselves, as well as others. The returns, the joy, the feelings of love will flow back to us 10 fold for whatever we send out.

    That’s my spiel!:)

    From: hugger
    Amen!...wow what a great grouping of thoughts you had there...do you feel divinely inspired..seems like you are...I am a singer with divine inspiration...sometimes when I sing in church..I have an out of body experience...I am listening to myself sing...really I know at that time it is God using my voice to reach his people..do you feel that... anyway..your thoughts on making loving choices was right on...(60's gal)..I try to catch myself.and do many times during the day, when I am unconsciously choosing to feed myself rather than feed HIM...the least of his brothers..sometimes that is my family...i.e. I don't feel like helping him with his project but I know that he will appreciate my help and ...it is the right thing to do...so "hugger do it"...and ALWAYS when I make the loving choice..I too am happier ...I too receive back a 100 fold...Jesus was a very right on dude...and he still invades my life every day trying to tell me how to be happy...by giving of my self...of ..from my self to someone else...without expectation..without condition..just because it is the right choice...

    From: Cautious
    What a lovely "spiel" on love... It is amazing how freely and without thought we use that word isn't it? You know, I love my dog, I love that dress, I love your haircut... It goes on and on!!!!! M. Scott Peck has an insightful book on thoughts of love as an emotion and love as a choice. For anyone who has not read any of his thoughts I encourage you to try to get a hold of a copy of "The Road Less Travelled."

    http://relationshipweb.com/archives/1996/contents/0067.htm


    Christian Love - a Choice not a Feeling

    The apostle John tells us in 1 John 2:7-8; “Beloved, I am writing you no new commandment, but an old commandment which you have had since the beginning; the old commandment is the word which you have heard. Yet I am writing you a new commandment which is true in him and in you.”

    The commandment is to love others. It’s old because it comes from the law.
    Leviticus 19:18 says, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” And it’s new
    because Jesus interpreted it a new way. In John 13:34-35 He says, “A new
    commandment I give to you, that you love one another; even as I have loved
    you, that you also love one another.”

    Jesus raised it to a new standard. We are to love like He did. Jesus didn’t just
    love His neighbors. He loved sinners and He loved His enemies. The Jews
    used to believe God wanted to destroy sinners. The rabbis would say, “There
    is joy in heaven when one sinner is obliterated from earth.” But, Jesus was a
    friend to the outcast and sinners and He taught us there is joy in heaven when
    one sinner comes home. Jesus widened the boundaries of who we are to love
    until they included the whole world.

    For Christians, loving others isn’t a feeling, but a choice. There will always
    be things about certain people we won’t like. But, we should never treat others
    as irritants or look down on them. We should never think they are unimportant
    compared to us. If anyone had the right to do that it would have been Christ,
    but He never did. He always had time for people. He always had compassion
    for them. Jesus was able to see into their hearts and know why they did what
    they did. As we become more and more like Christ on our journey we will be able
    to see others through His eyes.

    We should never treat people like enemies; they should never be a nuisance to us
    and we shouldn’t ignore their needs. Our brother’s needs are our needs, his
    interests our interests. To serve him is why we are here and to fellowship with
    him the true joy of life.

    John says loving our brother allows us to progress in our spiritual life, but
    hating him stops the progress. Your choice!

    Teach your children less about the love of power and more about the power of love!
    Labels: Bible verses, Christian love, Jesus, love others, love your neighbor

    http://teachingsundayschool.blogspot.com/2006/11/christian-love-cho...

    Is Love A Feeling Or An Action?
    According to scripture, is love a feeling or an action? Please cite scripture to support your answer whenever possible.

    todd1 i agree completely.love is a choice,a choice to react like God would.feelings are fickled ,and often swayed by the desires of the flesh.too many live by their feelings,instead of Gods word.
    ---tom2 on 6/12/08


    Love is a Feeling, which causes good Actions,
    Hate is a Feeling, Which causes Bad Actions!
    W/O God, their is NO Love!
    ---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/11/08


    To expand on 1 Cor 13 describing love:
    It certainly does! And describes it in terms of our actions, not our feelings. In terms of being patient, being kind, rejoicing in truth, bearing all things, believing all things, hoping all things, enduring all things.
    Sometimes we dont feel like being patient with those we love...or being kind to the stranger who needs help...but love is a choice of the will, not the heart, which is "deceitful above all things and desperately wicked" (jer 17:9)
    ---Todd1 on 6/11/08


    1 corinthians chapter 13 describes love
    ---tom2 on 6/10/08



    Love is action. John 3:16 says, "God so loved the world that he GAVE his son for the forgiveness of sin." When I was a child, I viewed love as a feeling, but maturity has taught me not to rely solely on my feelings. You can grow to love and respect a person with time even when the feelings are long gone. Joy 9988
    ---Joy9988 on 7/18/07


    WE are to be perfected in love. The Bible teaches that perfect love casts out all fear. Jesus comand for believers is to Love. It is an action but for me,it is also a feeling which is the opposite of Fear. 1cor 13 tells us that it is a feeling of peace. So it is both
    ---jody on 7/16/07


    It is the greatest of all of God's commanments, to love the lord thy God with all of thy heart,all of thy soul and all of thy might and to love thy neighbor as you love yourself. IT IS A CHOICE, THE FEELINGS COME FROM THE CHOICES THAT YOU MAKE WHETHER LOVE,ANGER,ETC. In the matchless name of JESUS CHRIST.
    ---queen on 7/16/07


    jesus told us to love our enemies.well thats a choice.the world is lost in the idea that love is an emotion.believe me you like someone before you love them,you choose to love.
    ---tom2 on 6/19/07




    Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
    :23 ..If a man love me, he will keep my words
    :31 ..the Father gave me commandment, even so I do.
    Jn 21:17 ..Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

    Love is felt, but acts prove love as shown by these Scriptures. Loving an enemy cannot mean warm, fuzzy feelings - Mt 5:44.

    As faith without works is dead, love without works is dead.
    ---a_servant on 6/18/07


    greetings.How do we 'feel' when we 'lovingly care' for others?We must 'do' so to get that 'feeling'
    ---earl on 6/18/07


    Read the Love Chapter-- I Corinthians chapter 13 and decide for yourself.
    But I will say this: I don't want to get caught up in feelings only when it comes to love. I like action. Action is better. We won't always feel love but that should not stop us from doing the right thing toward a person or thing. Feelings are fickle. Let the Love of Christ lead you in all that you do, not rely on just feelings.
    ---Robyn on 6/17/07


    Love is both an emotion and an action. Read Mt. 19:19. We are told to love our neighbor as ourself. (Unless there is a depression problem, a person loves themselves more than anything else.) Action is shown in Luke 10:30 and following verses in the story of the "Good Samaritan" So you see, both varibles are in play to really have Agape love - both emotion and this is concluded in action not just words.
    ---wivv on 6/17/07




    God's kind of love, since He is love, is
    Agape. This love is an action. A wonderful scripture of God's love in action is.. St. Jn 3:16.. God so LOVED, that He GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.... Brian. 6933
    ---BRIAN._STAFFORD on 6/17/07


    Love is a mindset that shows itself in action. The Father> "'showing mercy' unto thousands of them that love Me, and keep My commandments. (Deut. 5:10). Us> "You shall love the LORD your God with all your 'heart', (sub-consious mind, the place where all reflex thoughts & actions originate. Revealed & manifested thru words & actions) and with all your 'soul', (conscious thought, reflective of the central focus of the mind) and with all your 'might' (forceful expression & vigor)." (Deut.7:9).
    ---joseph on 6/17/07


    It is not an emotion but every emotion in the book can surface because of love. The simple way to look at it is this. There are medications that can make you sad,angry,confused,happy,scared,tired,
    energetic etc. There is not one medication in the world that can make you love someone.
    ---Matthew on 6/16/07


    love is not even close to a feeling ,its a choice.
    ---tom2 on 6/16/07




    St Paul:

    'Love is patient - kind - it is not jealous - is not pompous - is not inflated - is not rude - does not seek its own interests - not quick-tempered - does not brood over injury - does not rejoice over wrongdoing - but rejoices with the truth - it bears all things - believes all things - hopes all things - endures all things.

    Add to this the life of Jesus - one big act of love - and his teachings (forgiveness: The Prodigal Son, compassion: The Good Samaratin etc ..).
    ---Ed on 6/16/07


    "God is love," we have in 1 John 4:8&16. So, love has to do with how God is, and NOT just how I may feel about some one person I like a lot...NOT just a bunch of emotions and being hung up about some one favorite who I suppose will give me all I want.

    Because God is ALL-loving, able to have everything good, WHILE doing good to all people even while they give nothing back (O:}

    "'For if you love those who love you, what reward have you?'" (in Matthew 5:46)
    ---Bill_bila5659 on 6/16/07


    We have enough quoteing scriptures as it is,But I can tell you love is not a feeling it's action. Spiritual love is only avallable for True, on their way to heaven, Believers.
    ---catherine on 6/16/07


    Love is a command. Jesus told us the Greatest Command is to love God and love our neighbor as ourselves. Matthew 22:37. In 1 Corinthians 13, Paul discusses all of the actions associated with love.
    ---Madison1101 on 6/16/07




    I believe love is in word, in deed, and in truth. As far as "feeling", I believe that the most incredible peace and joy come from truly loving in word, deed, and truth

    "Beloved, let us not love in word only, but in deed and in truth."
    "God manifested His love toward us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
    ---Linda on 6/16/07

    http://christianblogs.christianet.com/1181991213.htm

    Falling (Or Feeling) Out Of Love?
    by: Lynn Powers





    Love. Probably the most misused word in the English language. We “love” our kids, our dog, pizza, even certain television shows. But if we really want to learn about love, God’s Word is where we should turn.

    The Bible talks a lot about love – what it is (1Corinthians 13), why we are told to love (1 John 4:19), ways we should express love (John 15:13). The Bible tells us how much God loves us (John 3:16) and that love is the greatest commandment of all (1Corinthians 13:13).

    Unfortunately, and much to God’s displeasure, marriages break up all the time because couples have fallen “out of love.” But, according to the Bible, falling out of love is impossible because love is a choice. Feeling out of love, on the other hand, is possible. Even probable. Anyone who is married – even happily – will testify to that.

    And that’s really what it comes down to, isn’t it? Many couples base their claims of falling out of love on the fact that they no longer feel love for their spouse. But God tells us not to live by our feelings. Our feelings can change from day to day – even moment to moment! God’s Word tells us in Proverbs 28:26 and in Jeremiah 17:9 that our hearts are deceitful. They can’t always be trusted.

    If you are unhappy in your marriage, to the point of wanting to walk away, that’s probably not something you want to hear. Most likely, you feel justified in your decision to walk away. Maybe you’ve even convinced yourself that God actually approves of your reasons for leaving. After all, you have some good reasons! But, of course, you already know in your heart that God does not approve. Because His idea of marriage is forever. And, unless there is abuse or an unrepentant affair, you are required to stay. Whether you feel like it or not.

    Here’s a question for you. Do you believe Jesus loves you? If you’re a Christian, your answer is probably, “of course!” The Bible tells us over and over how much He loves us. So much that He went to the cross. But here’s another question. Do you think Jesus felt like going to the cross? Do you think He wanted to experience the nails driving into his hands and feet? That he felt like being beat to a pulp, spit on, shoved to the ground…I don’t think so. But Jesus made a decision. He decided to bear the excruciating pain. To be tortured. Whipped. Cursed at.

    If Jesus had acted on his feelings, we’d all be on our way to hell. But because he pushed through His feelings and decided to love, our lives are forever changed.

    Although you won’t have to experience the physical pain Jesus did when He decided to love, you may go through some pretty heavy emotional pain. Choosing to love is not easy! Especially when there are hurts, anger and bitterness to work through. Especially when you don’t feel like it!

    If you’re no longer “in love” with your husband or wife, if you’re considering ending your marriage, get help before the cement completely sets in your heart. Contact a good Christian marriage counselor or therapist to help you learn what you need to do to get the love back. Do it God’s way. When you do, it won’t be long before you’ll find yourself falling (and feeling) in love again.

    Marriage resources to check out:
    http://www.marriagetoday.org/site/PageServer
    http://www.familylife.com/site/c.dnJHKLNnFoG/b.3843443//
    http://www.marriagebuilders.com/

    http://www.articlecity.com/articles/relationships/article_1588.shtml

    Sermon - Sunday 9th May 2004
    Love Is Not A Feeling, It's An Act Of Your Will
    Scripture - John 13: 31-35
    Rev Andy Braunston
    The words “I Love You” are perhaps the most overused and misunderstood words in the English language. We know what we mean by them but, it seems, we don’t always understand what we mean.

    In our culture “love” is a feeling, and often a passing transitory feeling. We have the spectacle of President Bush wanting to protect marriage so that Brittany Spears can, legally, get married and divorced in the space of 24 hours; but lesbian and gay people are denied the chance to make life long vows of commitment which are recognised and honoured by the state.

    Each month wedding couples come to me to discuss their desire to have a wedding with MCC. I enjoy this part of my ministry – most of the time. It is a privilege to meet couples who are sure about their love for each other, who have weathered storms together and have come to a mature, fuller understanding of the commitment they are making. It is also a part of my ministry I am most uncomfortable about – it is worrying to see couples who are obviously still very new together, or who have had a huge row and who think that somehow having a blessing service will make everything all right. We say that we will not normally meet with couples to discuss weddings for couples who have not been together for at least 6 months, but sometimes I think they lie to me.

    When I wonder what is going on here I think they have misunderstood what the word “love” can mean. But, there again, this is not difficult to do considering the confusion in our culture about what love is and the fact that our language has only the one word “love” when other languages, and the Greek of the New Testament has at least four words.

    One Word – Four Meanings: Four Meanings – One Word

    When we use the word “love” we do use it in different ways. I love my mother but in a different way to the way I love Ian. I love my best friend John in a different way still which is different to the way that I love my job or the people I serve as pastor. But we only have the one word to sum up all these different contexts and meanings.

    In Greek, and in the Greek used in the New Testament, four main words are used for the term “love”. Each of these words has different meanings and nuances.

    The first word is "eros". We know what this type of love is all about. It’s where we get the word erotic from. It’s the wow stuff. It is exciting, it involves hormones and pheromones and energy. It makes us do some very silly things and it is what most people thing love is. It means romantic and sexual love between lovers. It’s the root of lust – which can be both negative and positive. It’s about wanting to find pleasure in the company of another and in the body of another. Lust is negative when we are wanting only to find pleasure and fulfilment for ourselves and not to give that to others. When we start a romantic relationship it is this stuff which lights the fire in us. Sometimes we call it infatuation as we have all the emotional and chemical stuff going on in us. It’s great, its like being on a roller-coaster and like all good roller coaster rides, its fast, its exciting, it has lots of ups and downs, but it doesn’t last that long! It couldn’t. You can’t live on the roller coaster for too long without getting rather sick. Some people think that when the infatuation wears off, when eros is getting a little weaker love is “dying” – often it is changing but we can’t recognise this. In relationships we have to recognise that love may start off as a feeling, but it isn’t going to remain that. Love is not a feeling, its an act of our will. Once the hormones and pheromones die off we are left with building a relationship, and going deeper than those first, wonderful and troubling emotions. Love will die if we don’t work at it, if we don’t communicate, if we let other things get in the way, but at its heart, love is an act of our will, if we see it simply as a feeling we will find relationship after relationship going wrong and ending.

    Apart from this romantic love there is also love between friends. In Greek this word is “philia”. We all know this type of love and know that it is different from the romantic erotic love we just talked about. My generation values friendship highly, I am fiercely loyal to my friends and would do almost anything for them. I become something of a street figher to protect my friends and know that I can become very fierce with those who upset or betray them. I value friendship highly and expect a lot of myself in a friendship, and, sometimes unwisely, of my friends. But this type of love is different from erotic and romantic love. I do not seek to fulfil the romantic or erotic needs of my friends – somehow that feels wrong – even though I know that people who have been friends for years sometimes become lovers – which might mean that the love they had for each other has changed or wasn’t ever recognised for what it was.

    Then there is the love we feel for our families. This is different again. We choose who our friends are – often with some, albeit unconscious, care. But we don’t get that much choice about who our families are. We are brought up to love them – indeed the Bible tells us to honour our father and mother. Sometimes, this is easier than others. The strange thing about this type of love, in Greek called “storge” is that it is very difficult to end it. Sadly friendships come to an end, but no matter how estranged one is from one’s family, they still are your family! We may not talk to them for years, we may seethe at them, loathe them, get totally fed up with them, but they still are our family and we recognise that we have some duty to them. Of course, many of us find that this type of love is not at all onerous and enjoy wonderful relationships with our families, and “storge” is good. What is different about it, though, is that it stems from a sense of obligation and duty, whereas “philia” the love we have for our friends is what we choose to give and “eros” often takes us by surprise!

    As interesting as all these loves are, they don’t speak of the love that Jesus was talking about in today’s reading from St John’s Gospel where he says “I give you a new commandment, love one another; just as I have loved you, you also must love one another”. This type of love is radically different from all the others. In Greek it's called “agape” and it means a sacrificial, unconditional and possibly unreciprocated love.

    Agape

    Agape is about giving of ourselves expecting and wanting nothing in return. It means loving other people regardless of whether you like them or whether they love you. It’s supreme example is in Jesus who laid down his life, not only for his friends, but for everyone.

    I was driving in Birmingham yesterday and I saw a church with three crosses along the wall of it’s church yard. The middle cross had the word “forgiveness” written on it. The one on the left had “refused” and the one on the right had “accepted” on it. These represented the two thieves who were crucified along with Jesus – one who accepted the forgiveness on offer and one who didn’t. Agape love made Jesus lay down his life for both thieves – and for us – even though one of them didn’t want to accept what was on offer. It is this last form of love that Jesus commands us to have for each other.

    Jesus’ Command

    Jesus command to us is to love one another. How do we do this? I would like to offer three suggestions.

    A: Love is different from liking!

    Love is a different thing from liking another person. We like someone else because of ways in which we can make positive connections. We share a similar humour or outlook on life, we complement each other, we find it easy to spend time with them. There maybe something about attraction and romance going on as well, but generally it is easy to spend time with the people we like. It is easy to do things, even things that inconveniences us, for those we like.

    Agape love, however, is different. We love others regardless of whether or not we like them. We love others regardless of whether we will “get anything back” because of our actions. This type of love is not about a feeling, it is not about willing ourselves to think nice things about the other, it is about our actions and the motivations behind our actions.

    It is about serving each other, going out of the way for each other, putting ourselves out. It’s about listening to each other, supporting each other during both good times and bad - and all this regardless of whether or not we like each other.

    Churches are peculiar places for a number of reasons – not least of all because of the people who are in them! When we are in church we are here to love and serve God – and we love and serve God by loving and serving God’s people. This is not a social club. There will be people in the church whom we like – hopefully lots of them – but there will also be people we don’t like, people we find it harder to get along with. God puts these people there to help us learn to love. Of course, we might be the person that someone else finds it very difficult to like! I get puzzled and annoyed when I hear people say “oh, I’m not doing that” or “I’m not coming to that event” because X will be there and I don’t like X. When we say that we are missing the point, we are commanded by Jesus to love X – and that does not mean we have to like X, but we do have to love, serve, care for and pray for X. So my first challenge to us this afternoon is a simple one; how do we show love for those we don’t like?

    B: Love is often Tough

    Sometimes when we hear the word “love” we think that we mean nice gooey, soft things. Often love is nice and soft and gooey. But often love is tough. As you know Ian and I love our dog Beech. In fact we are both quite potty about him. It would be very easy to feed Beech all the time, in fact Beech does not understand the concept of “enough” when applied to food. If we fed him all he wanted he would be like a very large biscuit barrel with a leg in each corner. He would develop joint and heart problems and have a shorter life. He would become ill and not even enjoy the shorter life that he would have. It is tough to say “no” when a beautiful dog is gazing at you when you are eating something, but it is the most loving thing to do.

    Now that is a rather simple example, which doesn’t disturb any of us. Sometimes love has to be tough and it is disturbing. A couple of years ago I was asked by someone who used to come to church if I would tell his boyfriend that he wanted to end the relationship. Now there are many things I do as a pastor, but dumping other people’s partners because they are too scared to, is just not one of them! I had to get very tough with this guy and say that his request was unreasonable, and that he was being a coward. If he had the courage to get involved with this person, then he needed to find the courage to end the relationship. I said I would be supportive to them both as they renegotiated the relationship and offered various resources and advice about where to go to get relationship counselling but I would not do the deed myself! Of course this parishioner was shocked that I could be so firm and “nasty”! With the same person I had to tell some home truths too as well which he didn’t appreciate. But Love is tough. I would not have done him any favours to be gentle and nice and smiling and generally weak.

    When we tell people that their behaviour is inappropriate we are acting in a loving way, both to that person and to the wider community we are seeking to protect. I am so proud of this congregation now as when there is inappropriate gossip or backbiting the people who are doing this are challenged and told this is wrong. This leads some people to think that the people standing up for tough love are “bitchy queens” but they are not, they are being mature and demonstrating agape love. Love for the people who are behaving inappropriately and love for the community here who deserve better. Love is tough. So my second challenge to you is do you show tough love or do you back away wanting a quiet life? Which is more loving?

    C: Love the World

    My final thought about showing agape love in action is to love the world. This sounds strange as many of us come from Christian traditions which are very content to condemn the world and to play as small a part in non-Christian culture as possible. The evangelical church I attended in my teens prided itself on offering almost a total alternative culture. Most nights of the week one could attend church meetings, we had church holidays away together, we listened to Christian music all the time and only read Christian books. It was quite a challenge to know how to evangelise really as we only ever mixed with Christians!

    But St John’s Gospel tells us that God so loved the world that He sent his only Son to the world. Loving the world with agape love does not mean being conformed to it. But it does mean we have to embrace the world, to serve the world, to tell it like it is and to change it. Agape love gets us to write Amnesty International letters to oppressive governments in the hope that people we have never met and will never meet and who don’t even share the same faith as us, are treated better. Agape love motivated Mother Theresa to serve the poor and the dying in Calcutta. Agape love motivates us to serve. So my final challenge is how do you serve others, not in the church through your life?

    Conclusion

    There are many kinds of love that we experience. The fact that we experience so many kinds of love means we often don’t understand what we mean when we say, or someone says to us, “I love you”. We usually think they mean they, or we, are “in love” with the other. We also think that being “in love” is all about feelings and not about our wills. However, the Bible says there are many different types of love and the love we should demonstrate to each other in the Church and to the world is the highest form of love, in Greek called agape. This is love which is sacrificial, which may be unreciprocated and which is difficult. This is what Jesus tells us to do when he tells us to love one another.

    > So how do you show love for those you don’t like?
    > Can you show tough love or do you back away wanting a quiet life?
    > How do you show love to those outside the Church?

    This is Jesus’ command to us. How good at obeying are we?

    http://www.mccmanchester.co.uk/sermons/sermon_09may04.htm

    Very nice too read. Thank you :)
    I always say that love is something you do, not a feeling. A feeling also comes. A lot of people say they love, but they hit other people or do/say noting to them.
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    Real love :)
    If we give….
    Tove Marie

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