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    Trimm Group Restores 'Lost' Festival - Chag Yeshua (The Feast of Deliverance)

    Posted by Lev/Christopher on November 16, 2009 at 12:32am
    in Festivals of Messianic Israel

    A messianic Group claims that it has 'rediscovered' a lost festival and that it will be celebrating it for the first time in 2,000 years. I leave you to judge for yourselves:


    There is an amazng and important festival on the Biblical calendar which has been lost and has not been observed for centuries. The festival was enacted in the 3rd Book of the Maccabees, but since this book was removed from the canon (along with the rest of the apocrypha), this festival was effectively removed with it. As the restoration of truth continues, one of the things that we need to do is restore this lost, biblical festival to our observance.

    What is the background of this festival? After the Battle of Raphia in 217 B.C.E. Ptolemy IV sought to enter the Holy of Holies in Jerusalem, but was miraculously repulsed (3Macc. 1:1-2:24). Upon returning from Egypt he seeks to punish the Jews there for his humiliation. He lowers their political status and seeks to impose paganism on them (3Macc. 2:25-33) and tortures and kills those that refuse to renounce Judaism (3Macc. 3:1-5:51) An elder priest named Eleazar prays for the deliverance of his people (3Macc. 6:1-25), YHWH intervenes bringing about the repentance of the king and the deliverance of the Jews (6:16-7:23) The Jews declared an annual festival called “The Feast of Deliverance” (Chag Yeshua) as an annual celebration of the salvation of the Jews in Egypt at this time. The festival enacted from the 8th to the 14th of the Egyptian month of Epeiph. The Egyptian calendar was a Solar Calendar and these days correspond to 19 August 217 BCE on the Julian Calendar and this was 12th Elul 3544 on the Hebrew calendar. This festival should be observed on the 12th of Elul each year.

    And there is another element in this festival for us as believers in Messiah. The Hebrew word for “deliverance” is YESHUA so we have here “The Feast of Yeshua”. The deliverance of the Jews from the hand of Ptolemy IV points us forward to the deliverance of Israel by the Messiah Yeshua. This feast gives us another important theme, Messiah and the deliverance of Israel.

    What do we do on Hag Yeshua? The text of 3 Maccabees tells us that the day was celebrated with rejoicing and they “were crowned with all kinds of fragrant flowers” beyond this we must simply reach to the festival theme itself. Obviously the festival should involve recounting the story of 3 Maccabees. Since the festival is in the summer (at least in the northern hemisphere) this points obviously to summer festivities. Modern activities could include barbeques and pool parties.

    In 2010 Chag Yeshua (The Feast of Deliverance) will run seven days beginning Aug. 22, 2010 .I want to encourage you to join WNAE and other Nazarenes around the world this summer as we observe this festival again for the first time in nearly 2,000 years.

    James Trimm
    Worldwide Nazarene Assembly of Elohim
    WNAE http://www.wnae.org

    http://nazarenespace.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2182335:BlogPos...


    If you look at the Orthodox Jewish calendar you will find all sorts of "Torah-Plus" festivals cluttering up the year. At the risk of being accused cynical, I have observed that in the absence of spiritual life there is a tendency in the Messianic movement to keep on adding 'more teachings' and 'more festivals' to keep up peoples' interest and involvement. Just because a Jew (or anyone else for that matter) invents a new festival to celebrate this or that event (usually a military victory or some well-known Jewish rabbi) does not mean that Yahweh sanctions it. This is how the traditions of Talmudic Judaism evolved (which Yah'shua sternly censured).

    Though Paul certifies our right to observe private things (like anniversaries) we have not been authorised to add to what Yahweh commanded to be observed religiously-speaking in Torah, even if 'extra' festivals that were added by man (or woman) - the Pharisees adding Hanukkah (a late Feast of Tabernacles) and Queen Esther adding Purim. There are only 9 mandated observances in Torah - the weekly Sabbath, the monthly New Moon and the 7 Annual Festivals.

    Chag Yeshua sounds very Christian/Messianic because Deliverance is Yeshua in Hebrew, but it is not.


    Reply by James Trimm on November 19, 2009 at 5:49pm
    For the record I knew the late Dr. Ernest Martin. In the 9990’s I served as a consultant to the Original Bible Project which Dr. James Tabor established as inspired by Martin’s book Restoring the Original Bible. Dr. Martin used to mail me manuscripts of the ruff drafts of his books to review, write comments on and return to him to review before publication. Dr. Martin encouraged me to restore the NT portion of the HRV Bible to the original manuscript order (though we disagreed on exactly where to place Hebrews). II did not always agree with everything Dr. Martin wrote, but as concerning the book Restoring the Original Bible, in this book Martin argues, among other things for a very early canonization of both the Tanak and the “New Testament” and that it was done in stages. Unfortunately Martin’s work, like so many others, simply assumes that the results of these canonizations were the books of the canon of the Masoretic Text. I agree with Martin about early canonization in stages, in fact there may have been a caonization after the Maccabees by the Pharisaic Sanhedrin which was established at the beginning of the era of the Zuggot. This stage may well have canonized many of the books we know as the Apocrypha (certainly the four books of the Maccabees, Judith and Sira which post-date Ezra and Nehemiah).

    Reply by James Trimm on November 19, 2009 at 5:49pm
    For the record I knew the late Dr. Ernest Martin. In the 9990’s I served as a consultant to the Original Bible Project which Dr. James Tabor established as inspired by Martin’s book Restoring the Original Bible. Dr. Martin used to mail me manuscripts of the ruff drafts of his books to review, write comments on and return to him to review before publication. Dr. Martin encouraged me to restore the NT portion of the HRV Bible to the original manuscript order (though we disagreed on exactly where to place Hebrews). II did not always agree with everything Dr. Martin wrote, but as concerning the book Restoring the Original Bible, in this book Martin argues, among other things for a very early canonization of both the Tanak and the “New Testament” and that it was done in stages. Unfortunately Martin’s work, like so many others, simply assumes that the results of these canonizations were the books of the canon of the Masoretic Text. I agree with Martin about early canonization in stages, in fact there may have been a caonization after the Maccabees by the Pharisaic Sanhedrin which was established at the beginning of the era of the Zuggot. This stage may well have canonized many of the books we know as the Apocrypha (certainly the four books of the Maccabees, Judith and Sira which post-date Ezra and Nehemiah).

    Though I don't agree with every conclusion of the author, I do believe that his criteria for establishing whether Scripture is inspired or not are valid, and so I am including the following article for consideration and possible discussion.

    The Apocryphal Books: Are they lost books of the Bible?
    by Cooper Abrams

    The fifteen Apocryphal books which the Roman Catholics have included in their Bibles, come from a collection of about eighteen or more books written during the Inter-testamental Period. This period of four hundred years began with God giving the last book of the Old Testament which was Malachi. The Inter-testamental period ended with the coming of Christ and the writing of the New Testament. During this four hundred years God sent no prophets to Israel and was silent giving no written revelation.

    The word "apocrypha" means "of questionable authenticity." These are called non canonical books because when the canon of Scriptures (the sixty six books of the Old and New Testaments) was accepted by the early Christians they recognized that these books contained spurious material and therefore were not inspired of God. Other names for these books are "hidden" or "deuterocanonical" books. These books are also called "pseudepigraphal", meaning "false writings" to designate them as spurious and unauthentic books of the late centuries B. C. and early centuries A. D. These books contain religious folklore and have never been considered inspired of God by biblical Christians from the earliest times of churches.

    Some have referred to these books as the missing books of the Bible and conclude they are new discovers which are part of God's revelation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The sixty six books that comprise the Old and Testament are God's revelation to man and when John completed the Book of Revelation, God's word to man was complete. God has not added to His revelation since. The content of these spurious books shows them to be inspired of man...not God. It is also noteworthy that the Roman Catholic church which is a false church with false doctrines and pagan teachings accepts these books as scripture. Further, some of the cults including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Mormons, also accept them as scripture. No biblical Christians or churches have ever accept them as such. The fact is there are no lost books of the Bible.

    These books or writings from the Apocrypha that the Roman Catholic Church claims are inspired are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Letter of Jeremiah, additions to Esther, Prayer of Azariah, Susanna (Daniel 13), and Bel and the Dragon (Daniel 14). Three other Apocryphal books in the Septuagint, the Prayer of Manasseh, and 1 & 2 Esdras, are not considered to be inspired or canonical by the Roman Catholic Church. These books were not accepted by the Roman Catholic church until 1546 in the Council of Trent. Therefore for over 1300 years, since the inception of the Roman Church in the fourth Century, even they did not considered them inspired.

    Why do non-Catholic authorities reject the Apocrypha as being a part of the sixty six books of the canon?

    There are mainly four reasons:
    1. They abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms.

    2. They teach doctrines which are false and foster practices which are at variance with inspired Scripture.

    3. They resort to literary types and display an artificiality of subject matter and styling out of keeping with inspired Scripture.

    4. They lack the distinctive elements which give genuine Scripture their divine character, such as prophetic power and poetic and religious feeling.

    Why do biblical Christians and churches reject the Apocrypha as being inspired of God?:

    1. These books existed before New Testament times, yet there is not one single quotation from the Apocrypha is in the New Testament. Jesus quoted from twenty four of the Old Testament books, and the New Testament quotes from thirty four books of the Old Testament. Introductory phrases like "it is written" or "thus says the Lord" are totally absent from the books and therefore the books themselves do not claim to be inspired of God.
    The books of 1st and 2nd Maccabees have historical significance, but when they are compared to the Bible they shown to not be the inspired Word of God. Even though they have some historical value these books are clouded by the contradictions found in their text. For example, in 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.

    2. Although some of the early church fathers quoted from these writings, and even accepted them as inspired, this does not mean they were inspired. The majority of the early church writers rejected these books as being inspired. Clearly in the Second Century and afterward there were many false teachers and heretics. It is important to know that Jesus nor any of the Apostles quoted from or mention any of these books.

    3. Some early Greek manuscripts contain the Apocrypha, along with the Septuagint.(the Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament). The Septuagint was translated in Alexandra, Egypt which was a hot bed of heresy. From Alexandra also came the corrupted manuscripts of Alpeh, A, B upon which all modern English translations are based (the Westcott-Hort text). They including of several of these books in the LXX, (Septuagint) was the natural result of the spirit of heresy and false teaching in Egypt. However, none of these books were ever included in the Hebrew Bible and were never accepted by the Jews. Further no Greek manuscript contains the apocryphal books as does the Roman Catholic Bible. Moreover, not a single ancient manuscript contains all of the apocryphal books. Lastly, only four of the apocryphal books are found in copies of the LXX and these manuscripts date to the fourth century A.D. No copy of the Septuagint before that time has any Apocryphal books included which reflect the progression of heresy in Egypt.

    4. The Jews are the ones who canonized the Books of the Old Testament and they did not include them. They have always excluded these Apocryphal books because the material in these books is heretical and contains gross doctrinal errors. Some of these gross doctrinal errors are; prayers for the dead. ( 2 Macc. 12:45-46) and salvation by works. (Tobit 12:9). Praying for the dead is not biblical as Hebrews 9:27 plainly states, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment." There is no second chance after death. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly states that salvation is not by works or merited by man. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

    The stories in the Apocryphal books are extra biblical, fanciful and clearly pure fiction. For example the story of Bel and the Dragon is clearly a fairy tale. The tale says that a pagan priest of Bel tried to deceive Daniel by using a trap door to consume food left for the idol Bel. This pagan priest was seeking to convince Daniel that Bel was a real god who ate and drank everyday. Another fanciful tale relates that Daniel was miraculously fed by the prophet Habakkuk, who was caught up by an angel in Judea, and taken to help Daniel in the lion's den in Babylon. Daniel lived hundreds of years before this spurious book titled "Bel and the Dragon" was written.

    Another such tale is found in Tobit. Tobit, a blind father who supposedly lived in Nineveh, sends his son Tobias on a journey to collect a debt. On a journey Tobias is led by an angel in disguise named Raphael. The angel leads him to the house of a virgin who had been married seven times, but whose husbands were all slain by a demon on their wedding night. Tobias marries the girl and drives away the demon by burning the heart of a certain fish in the bedroom, with the help of Raphael. He returns home with the money and his bride, and then heals his father's eyes with the fish's gall.

    Some of the teachings in these books are colored and some are immoral. In Judith 9:10,13, it says that God, assisted Judith in the telling of lies. The Apocryphal books of Ecclesiasticus and Wisdom teach that morality is based on expedience. In other words, according to these books it is right to sin in some situations.

    The Book of Wisdom 11:17 teaches that God made the universe out of pre-existing matter instead of "ex nihilo" (out of nothing) as Genesis 1:1-2, John 1:1-3 and Hebrews 11:3 plainly state.

    There are also historical errors Tobit claimed that he was alive when the Assyrians conquered Israel in 722 B. C. and when Jeroboam revolted against Judah in 931 B. C. However it records his total life span as 158 years. These two events were actually 859 years apart. Judith also mistakenly states that Nebuchadnezzar reigned in Nineveh instead of Babylon. There are many other gross historical errors as well.

    No true Bible believing church as has ever accepted the books as canonical for these reasons. In order for a book to be considered inspired of God and included in the canon it must satisfy the follow requirements.
    1. It must have been written by a prophet of God. None of the Apocryphal books claim they were.
    2. It must come with the authority of God. These spurious books are strikingly absence of the ring of authority. None of them come up to or compare in any way to the character and quality of the sixty six Books of the Bible.

    3. It must demonstrate that the power of God rests on the book. There is nothing transforming about these books.

    4. It must tell the truth about God, man, history, science, etc. The books are full of contradictions, errors and even heresies. The Apocryphal books are full of untruth.

    5. It must be accepted by biblical Christians as inspired of God. The Apocryphal books completely fail this final and fatal test.

    Why did the Catholic church accept them as canonical.
    In a nutshell, the Roman Catholic church has never had any biblical support for its teachings such as purgatory, prayers for the dead, works for salvation, etc. The events of the Reformation brought the Roman Catholic heresies into question and they had not scriptural authority for teachings. However, these false teachings are found in the Apocryphal books, so the Council of Tent in 1546, canonized them proclaiming them to be "sacred" books. This ruse gave them support for there erroneous teachings. It is always the clear mark of a cult or false church to add extra biblical revelations to the Bible in order to seek to justify their false teachings. Historically, the Roman Catholic church did not accept these books for the first 1300 years of their history. Clearly, the reason they changed their position was that during the Reformation the teachings of Catholicism came under scrutiny by people who were studying God's word, they could find no mention in the Bible of a place called Purgatory, prayers for the dead, paying of indulgences and other practices of the Roman church.

    The Apocryphal books themselves show they are not inspired of God and mostly fictional works. They have never been truly accepted by biblical Christians as part of God's word.

    The Roman Church practice of accepting of money, called "indulgences" for the payment of sins especially came under attack as being unbiblical. History shows that accepting indulgences brought a great deal of money into the coffers of the Roman Catholic Church. A Roman Catholic could actually purchase a indulgence in advance and then go out an commit his sin. It was this unbiblical practice that was one of the reasons that Martin Luther wrote his "Ninety-five Thesis" and tacked it to the door of the Wittenburg church door. His action sparked the Reformation which began in 1517 which was the also the beginning of Protestantism. There is a statement found in 2 Maccabees 12:43-45, which says "2,000 pieces of silver were sent to Jerusalem for a sin-offering...Whereupon he made reconciliation for the dead, that they might be delivered from sin." On this brief statement the Roman Catholic church has hung its teachings of Purgatory and paying for indulgences for payment of sins. However, nowhere in God's word is there found any mention of a prayer or a sin offering for the dead. Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (Hebrews 9:27. In God's word, there is no place called Purgatory or any prayers offered for dead men. When a man dies his fate is sealed. If a man is a believer, he as a child of God, goes to heaven, if he is a lost man he will go to hell. There is no second chance after death. Paul clearly states that a Christian goes immediately into the presence of God when he dies, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:8)

    The false doctrines, historical, cultural, and scientific error, which are contrary to the teachings of the sixty six books of the Bible, show the Apocryphal books are not inspired of God.

    The inclusion of the Apocrypha in the original printing of the King James Bible strictly for historical reasons. They were included like the materials in many of our modern Bibles for reference. These books were written during the Inter-testamental period between the Old and New Testaments. They contained for example the books of 1st and 2nd Maccabees which record the of rebellion of the Jews against Syria leading to Roman occupation of Israel during the time of Christ. During this 400 year period many changes occurred among the Jews such as the beginning of worship in synagogues, the rise of the sects of the Pharisees and Sadducee's, the rabbinical writings of the Talmud, etc.

    http://www.bible-truth.org/Apocrypha.html




    James Trimm said:
    For the record I knew the late Dr. Ernest Martin. In the 9990’s I served as a consultant to the Original Bible Project which Dr. James Tabor established as inspired by Martin’s book Restoring the Original Bible. Dr. Martin used to mail me manuscripts of the ruff drafts of his books to review, write comments on and return to him to review before publication. Dr. Martin encouraged me to restore the NT portion of the HRV Bible to the original manuscript order (though we disagreed on exactly where to place Hebrews). II did not always agree with everything Dr. Martin wrote, but as concerning the book Restoring the Original Bible, in this book Martin argues, among other things for a very early canonization of both the Tanak and the “New Testament” and that it was done in stages. Unfortunately Martin’s work, like so many others, simply assumes that the results of these canonizations were the books of the canon of the Masoretic Text. I agree with Martin about early canonization in stages, in fact there may have been a caonization after the Maccabees by the Pharisaic Sanhedrin which was established at the beginning of the era of the Zuggot. This stage may well have canonized many of the books we know as the Apocrypha (certainly the four books of the Maccabees, Judith and Sira which post-date Ezra and Nehemiah).
    I stopped reading when the author said:

    The word "apocrypha" means "of questionable authenticity."

    This is just plain false... the word "apocrypha" means "hidden" and refers to the fact that the books were being "hidden" or withdrawn from common use, and placed in an appendix.

    The rest of the material is equally inaccurate.

    I am going to write an in depth article on the truth about the Apocrypha, I have just seen so much of this inaccurate information thrown around. I will address everything above and also a lot of other information (like showing places where the NT is plainly and clearly citing material from the Apocrypha.
    What then to do with the following?"

    Zechariah 8:18-19
    18 And the word of YHWH Tzva'ot came unto me, saying:
    19 "Thus says YHWH Tzva'ot: The fast of the fourth month, and the fast of the fifth, and the fast of the seventh, and the fast of the tenth, shall be to the House of Y'hudah joy and gladness, and cheerful seasons; therefore love you truth and peace."

    'The fast of the fourth month' took place on the 17th Tammuz in memory of the taking of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar and the interruption of the daily sacrifice. To this tradition adds, that it was also the anniversary of making the golden calf, and of Moses breaking the Tables of the Law.

    The fast of the fifth month,' on the 9th of Ab, was kept on account of the destruction of the first (and afterwards of the second) Temple. It is significant that the second Temple (that of Herod) was destroyed on the first day of the week. Tradition has it, that on that day God had pronounced judgment that the carcasses of all who had come out of Egypt should fall in the wilderness, and also, that again it was fated much later to witness the fulfilment of Jeremiah 26:18-23, when a Roman centurion had the ploughshare drawn over the site of Zion and of the Temple.

    'The fast of the seventh month,' on the 2nd of Tishri, is said by tradition to be in memory of the slaughter of Gedaliah and his associates at Mizpah (Jer 41:1).

    'The fast of the tenth month' was on the 10th of Tebeth, when the siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar commenced.

    The Clear Truth
    About the Apocrypha
    By James Scott Trimm



    The term “Apocrypha” can be confusing at times, because it can be used in many different ways. For the purpose of this article, the term “Apocrypha” refers to the following collection of tthirteen books:

    1 Esdras
    2 Esdras
    Tobit
    Judith
    Wisdom of Solomon
    Wisdom of Ben Sira
    Baruch
    Letter of Jeremiah
    The Prayer of Manasseh
    1 Maccabee
    2 Maccabee
    3 Maccabee
    4 Maccabee

    These are books which are regarded as canon by some, but not all groups of Christians. I have not included in this list:

    Additions to Esther
    The Prayer of the Three Young Men
    Susana
    Bel and the Dragon
    Psalm 151

    These are not actually books, but rather extracts from “long versions” of the books of Esther. Daniel and Psalms. Whether or not the “long” versions of these books should be used is another, very important question, but not the question we are dealing with in this article.

    We will also not discuss other books which are not part of these thirteeen books, which have some claim to authority (such as 1Enoch and the Book of Jasher).

    The thirteen books mentioned above were originally part of the Tanak (the so-called “Old Testament”) and were taken out of your Bible! In the following article I intend to prove beyond any doubt, that these thirteen books were originally part of the Bible and have since been removed.

    The word “Apocrypha” means literally “hidden” indicating that these books were being removed from their place in Scripture, and placed or “hidden” in an appendix in the back of the book.


    THE ANCIENT CANONS

    None of these thiteen books are to be found in the canon of the Masoretic Text. However, the Masoretic Text is a rather late compilation, being a product of the Masorites between the 7th and 11th centuries C.E..

    However the much older canon of the Greek Septuagint text, the translation of which was begun by the third century B.C.E. and completed before 132 B.C.E., included all of these books with the exception of 2 Esdras.

    Also the canon of Aramaic Peshitta Tanak which was translated from the Hebrew, probably in the second century C.E.. contains all of these books except for 1 Esdras.

    The books are also to be found in the fifth century canon of the so-called Christian Palestinian Aramaic Version.

    These books are also to be found in the canons of the Old Slavonic, Old Armenian, Old Georgian and Old Coptic and Old Ethiopic versions of the Tanak.

    These books are also to be found in the canon of the Old Latin version of the Tanak, and all but 2nd and 3rd Maccabees (though in modern editions 1st and 2nd Esdras are moved to an appendix).

    In short, the earliest canon to omit these thirteeen books, is that of the Masoretic Text, which does not arise until the 7th to 11th centuries CE!


    THE CHURCH FATHERS

    One critic of the Apocrypha claimed: “The majority of the early church writers rejected these books as being inspired.”

    This is absolutely false. Originally when writing this article, I intended to include quotations in which the pre-Nicean “Church Fathers” quote from the books of the Apocrypha as “Scripture”. I began gathering these quotes and soon realized that this task was well beyond the scope of this article. These “Church Fathers” do not just occasionally quote the books of the Apocrypha, they quote these books with as much consistency as the quote the other books of the Tanak And in quoting these books they refer to them as “Scripture” and even “Divine Scripture.” Among these “Church Fathers” are Ignatius, Polycarp, Pseudo-Barnabas, Clement of Rome, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Irenaeus, Eusebius, Cyprian and Tertullian. This clearly demonstrates that the earliest “Christians” used these books and regarded them as canon.


    ANCIENT JEWISH USAGE

    Some or all of these books were used by the Essene community at Qumran. Among the manuscripts of Biblical books found among the Dead Sea Scrolls are also included many manuscripts of books of the Apocrypha including Ben Sira, Tobit and the Letter of Jeremiah. These texts are all Hebrew and Aramaic except for one fragment of the Letter of Jeremiah in Greek. There is every reason to believe that the Qumran Community accepted these books as part of their canon.

    Josephus in his historical works makes use of historical portions of the Apocrypha. He makes use of both 1st and 2nd Maccabees and follows 1 Esdras as his primary source over the books of Ezra and Nehemiah, including the account of the competition in 1 Esdras 3:1-5:6 which is not to be found in Ezra or Nehemiah.

    The Talmud quotes Ben Sira as “Scripture” three times (b.Hag. 13a; b.Yev. 63b; b.Ket.110b) six times in Midrash Rabbah (X:6; LXXIII:12; XCI:3; XXXIII:1; VII, 19; XII,11) and once in the Zohar (Raya Mehemna 42b).

    The stories of the books of Tobit, Judith and the Maccabees also find themselves transcribed, usually in an abridged form, into the Midrashim.


    USED IN THE NT

    One critic of the Apocrypha wrote “These books existed before New Testament times, yet there is not one single quotation from the Apocrypha is in the New Testament.”

    This is at the very least misleading, and at the very most, false.

    These books were clearly used by the earliest believers in Messiah. While they are never quoted outright in the “New Testament”, they are often strongly alluded to.

    The following comparisons are all taken from the KJV version for consistency.


    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
    clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his
    eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because
    that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were
    thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish
    heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became
    fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image
    made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and
    creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
    through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies
    between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and
    worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is
    blessed for ever. Amen.
    For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
    women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
    burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
    which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
    their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain
    God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do
    those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all
    unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness;
    full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,"
    (Rom. 1:20-29)

    Clearly alluding to:

    For by the greatness and beauty of the creatures proportionably the
    maker of them is seen. ... Howbeit neither are they to be pardoned.
    ...They kept neither lives nor marriages any longer undefiled: but
    either one slew another traiterously, or grieved him by adultery....
    For the worshipping of idols not to be named is the beginning, the
    cause, and the end, of all evil."
    (Wis. 13:5, 8; 14:24,27)

    --------

    "Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the
    thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
    Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one
    vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour. What if God, willing
    to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much
    longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he
    might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy,
    which he had afore prepared unto glory,"
    (Rom. 9:20-23)

    Certainly alluding to:

    "For who shall say, What hast thou done? or who shall withstand thy
    judgment? or who shall accuse thee for the nations that perish, whom
    thou made? or who shall come to stand against thee, to be revenged for
    the unrighteous men?... For if thou didst punish the enemies of thy
    children, and the condemned to death, with such deliberation, giving
    them time and place, whereby they might be delivered from their
    malice:... For the potter, tempering soft earth, fashioneth every
    vessel with much labour for our service: yea, of the same clay he
    maketh both the vessels that serve for clean uses, and likewise also
    all such as serve to the contrary: but what is the use of either sort,
    the potter himself is the judge."
    (Wis. 12:12, 20; 15:7)

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    "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were
    dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands,
    eternal in the heavens....
    For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for
    that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be
    swallowed up of life."
    (2Cor. 5:1, 4)

    No doubt Paul is alluding to:

    "For the corruptible body presseth down the soul, and the earthy
    tabernacle weigheth down the mind that museth upon many things."
    (Wis. 9:15)

    ------

    "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against
    the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
    but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
    darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able
    to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand
    therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the
    breastplate of righteousness;
    And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above
    all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench
    all the fiery darts of the wicked.
    And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which
    is the word of God:"
    Eph. 6:11-17

    Well it does not take much to figure out that Paul did not invent the
    "full/complete armour" of Elohim , but drew the idea from:

    "He shall take to him his jealousy for complete armour, and make the
    creature his weapon for the revenge of his enemies. He shall put on
    righteousness as a breastplate, and true judgment instead of an
    helmet. He shall take holiness for an invincible shield. His severe
    wrath shall he sharpen for a sword, and the world shall fight with him
    against the unwise."
    (Wis 5:17-20)

    "...he [Eleazar] conqured the besiegers with the shield of his devout
    reason. ... Therefore let us put on the full armour of self-control. .."
    (4Macc. 7:4; 13:16 RSV)

    -----

    "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God
    waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein
    few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.: The like figure
    whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of
    the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward
    God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"
    (1Pt. 3:20-21)

    Kefa is alluding to the allegory in 4Maccabees:

    "For like a most skilful pilot, the reason of our father Eleazar
    steered the ship of religion over the sea of the emotions, and though
    buffeted by the stormings of the tyrant and overwhelmed by the mighty
    waves of tortures, in no way did he turn the rudder of religion until
    he sailed into the haven of immortal victory....
    Just as Noah's ark, carrying the world in the universal flood, stoutly
    endured the waves, so you, O guardian of the law, overwhelmed from
    every side by the flood of your emotions and the violent winds, the
    torture of your sons, endured nobly and withstood the wintry storms
    that assail religion."
    (4Macc. 7:1-3 15:31-32 RSV)

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    "Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow
    to speak, slow to wrath:"
    (James 1:19)

    A near quote from Sirach:

    "Be swift to hear; and let thy life be sincere; and with patience give
    answer."
    (Sir. 5:11)

    ------

    "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God
    cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"
    (James 1:13)

    Again Ya'akov (James) draws from Sirach:

    "Say not thou, It is through the Lord that I fell away: for thou
    oughtest not to do the things that he hateth. Say not thou, He hath
    caused me to err: for he hath no need of the sinful man."
    (Sir. 15:11-12)

    -----

    "Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields,
    which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them
    which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth."
    (James 5:4)

    Seems to allude to Tobit:

    "Let not the wages of any man, which hath wrought for thee, tarry with
    thee, but give him it out of hand: for if thou serve God, he will also
    repay thee: be circumspect my son, in all things thou doest, and be
    wise in all thy conversation. " (Tobit 4:14)

    -----

    "And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were
    given seven trumpets." (Rev. 8:2)

    This concept draws from Tobit:

    "I am Raphael, one of the seven holy angels, which present the prayers
    of the saints, and which go in and out before the glory of the Holy
    One." (Tobit 12:15)

    -----

    "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in
    heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power,
    unto the Lord our God:...
    And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all
    manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the
    second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;:
    The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the
    eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the
    eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.: And the twelve gates
    were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the
    street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass." (Rev.
    19:1; 21:19-21)

    Again the idea draws from Tobit:

    "And the streets of Jerusalem shall be paved with beryl and carbuncle
    and stones of Ophir.
    And all her streets shall say, Alleluia; and they shall praise him,
    saying, Blessed be God, which hath extolled it for ever." (Tobit 13:17-18)

    ------

    Another case if founs in comparing Jude 1:6-7 and 2Peter 2:4-6 with 3Maccabees 2:4-5:

    6: And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
    7: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    (Jude 1:6-7 KJV)

    4: For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
    5: And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
    6: And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
    (2Peter 2:4-6 KJV)

    This reference to the fallen angels event of Gen. 6 which brought the birth of “giants” wiped out by the flood immediately followed by a reference to the judgment of Sodom certainly alludes to:

    It was thou who didst destroy the former workers of unrighteousness, among whom were the giants, who trusted in their strength and hardihood, by covering them with a measureless flood.
    It was thou who didst make the Sodomites, those workers of exceeding iniquity, men notorious for their vices, an example to after generations, when thou didst cover them with fire and brimstone.
    (3Macc. 2:4-5)

    (Notice also the common phrase “an example to after generations/those after”)


    SETTING SOME THINGS STRAIGHT

    There are many claims made by those who oppose the Apocrypha, which need to be addressed:

    1. "the lack of any Hebrew originals"

    This argument fails on three levels.

    First of all it fails because we do have Hebrew originals for at least
    parts of several of the books of the Apocrypha including Tobit,
    Judith, Ben Sira and 1Maccabees. We also have Aramaic Peshitta
    versions of all but 1Esdras, and we have good reason to believe (based
    on comparing the Hebrew of the Tanak and Ben Sira with the Aramaic of
    the Peshitta) that most or all of these were translated directly from
    the Hebrew and very literally. (For those that do not know, Aramaic
    is very similar to Hebrew, so a literal Aramaic translation of a
    Hebrew original is almost as good as having the Hebrew itself).

    Second of all, at the time Rabbinic Judaism rejected these books most
    of all of them still existed in Hebrew, and at the time Protestantism
    rejected them, more of them existed in Hebrew than exist now. This is
    circular thinking. The Hebrew originals have largely been lost (or in
    some cases fallen into obscurity) because Protestantism and Rabbinic
    Judaism rejected them, and now they should be rejected because the
    Hebrew originals have been lost or fallen into obscurity.

    A similar situation exists with certain books of the "New Testament".
    For example we can now establish beyond any real doubt that
    Revelation was originally written in Hebrew, but the original Hebrew
    is now lost and only Aramaic and Greek remain. Even for those of us
    who maintain Hebrew and Aramaic origins for the books of the NT, no
    good contenders for the original Hebrew or Aramaic of 2Kefa, 2 & 3
    Yochanan and Jude are currently known. Would one also have us reject
    these books?

    2. "and many of them contain theologically or factually problematic
    statements"

    Again, those who reject all or part of the Bible make the same
    argument against the books that are in the canon. Antimissionaries
    make the same arguments against the NT. Certainly the canonical books
    contain statements which have been used by various groups as proof
    texts to "prove" various false doctrines. Moreover we are still
    trying to resolve just exactly what the original Hebrew and Aramaic of
    these books actually says.

    OBJECTION:

    1 and 2 Macabees disagree on how Antiochus IV died. 1 Mac 6:8-16 says
    he became grief stricken and died of sorrow in his bed. 2 Mac 9 says
    God struck him with a disease in his bowels on the battlefield and he was
    hurled from his chariot, dieing painfully on the ground with worms coming
    out of his eyes and his flesh rotting as the army looked on. Obviously,
    both accounts cannot be true, but both accounts appear in the Catholic
    edition of "Scripture".

    RESPONSE:

    This reminds me of anti-missionary arguments that Matthew and Acts
    disagree on how Judas died. When the various manuscript versions are
    compared in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek we find that the two accounts
    can be resolved. In fact the original Hebrew of 1Maccabees has many
    agreements with 2Maccabees on the death of Antiochus Epiphanies
    against the Greek version of 1Maccabees.

    CLAIM:

    2 Macabees encourages us to pray for the dead, a common Catholic
    practice. This practice is justified by this passage...

    "Judas urged the people to keep themselves free from all
    sin,....he took a collection from them individually, amounting
    to nearly two thousand drachmae, and sent it to Jerusalem to have
    a sacrifice for the sin offered, an altogether fine and noble action,
    in which he took full account of the resurrection. For if he had not
    expected the fallen to rise again, it would have been superflurious
    to pray for the dead, whereas if he had in view the splendid recompense
    reserved for those who make a pious end, the thought was holy and
    devout. This was why he had this atonement sacrifice
    offered for the dead, so that they might be released from their sin."
    (2 Mac 12:42-45, The Jerusalem Bible)

    This passage was used to support the Catholic idea of indulgences –
    that money can buy atonement for one's sins by someone other than
    the sinner even after he died!!!!

    Just because a certain passage has been misused by some group does not
    mean the book should be rejected. If that were the case we would
    reject the canon based on its misuse by the Jehovah's Witnesses.

    OBJECTION:

    2 Mac 5:12-16 claims that Jeremiah prayed for Israel after he died,
    which provided the Catholic Church it's basis for praying to Mary
    and other cannonized "saints". In fact that essentially means that
    there were corruptions in the Catholic Church that did not come
    from paganism but from ancient writings written by Jewish men ....
    but rejected by the overwhelming majority of Jewish leaders.

    RESPONSE:

    Although Catholics have justified this doctrine from this passage this
    is only rationalizing of a doctrine they transferred from paganism.
    They pray to various "saints" as to pagan gods. This event was much
    more akin to that of the mount of transfiguration event in Matthew 17.

    OBJECTION:

    Sirach, found only in the Apocrypha, also promotes this concept by
    saying "almsgiving atones for sins." (Sirach 3:33) and Tobit also says
    "alms deliver from all sin, and from death, and will not suffer the soul
    to go into darkness." (Tobit 4:11).

    I assume they refer to Sira 3:29 which is 3:30 in some versions. The
    Hebrew may be understood as "Therefore the almsgiver shall be atoned
    for his sins" (no cause and effect indicated) and the Aramaic
    literally reads "Therefore the almsgiver forsakes his sins".
    The KJV of Tobit 4:10-11 reads:

    10: Because that alms do deliver from death, and suffereth not to come
    into darkness.
    11: For alms is a good gift unto all that give it in the sight of the
    most High.

    The Hebrew of Tobit 4:11 reads "… and alms do deliver from death; and
    everyone who occupies himself in almsgiving shall behold the face of
    Elohim, as it is written, "I will behold your face by almsgiving" (Ps.
    17:15)

    Likewise we read in Proverbs” “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of YHWH men depart from evil.” (Prov. 16:6)… should we remove Proverbs from the canon?

    OBJECTION:

    Sirach 10:26 even says "Do not try to be smart when you do your work.".
    Why not? My career would be in ruins if I followed that advice.

    RESPONSE:

    The Aramaic says "Be not lazy when you do your work"


    OBJECTION:

    Judith 1:1 incorrectly claims that Nebuchadnezzar was king of Assyria
    when he was king of Babylon and claims that he reigned from Ninevah,
    contrary to the Scriptures which tell us he reigned from Babylon..
    Keep in mind that it was the Assyrians that captured the Northern
    Kingdom of Israel/Ephraim and the Babylonians that captured the
    southern kingdom of Judah.

    Another critic says:
    They [The Apocrypha] abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms. [referring to the book of Judith]

    RESPONSE:

    This "problem" is just plain silliness. The proper names in the Book
    of Judith were encoded. The Book was written during the Maccabean
    rebellion and names were changed to protect Judith herself as well as
    anyone possessing a copy pf the book. "Nebuchadnezzar" stood in place
    of "Antiochus Epiphanies" because both names have the same numerical
    value (gematria) in Hebrew. "Assyria" is used as code for the
    Seleucid Empire, and "Nineveh" is the codeword used for "Antioch".
    These facts are well recognized in the Midrashim which refer to this
    story with that decoding scheme.


    HOW DID WE GET OUR CANON?

    Now it is very unlikely that early Christians, after their split from Nazarene Judaism would have adopted any books from Rabbinic Jews. Thus any “Old Testament” books used as canon by the earliest Christians would have to have been inherited to them from their Nazarene forefathers.

    The evidence is overwhelming, these books were originally part of the Bible and have since been removed.

    James Trimm
    Worldwide Nazarene Assembly of Elohim
    http://www.wnae.org

    Thank you for taking the time to produce this as this can serve as the basis for ongoing discussion. I do think you are straining some of the comparisons between the NT and alleged quotations from the Apocrypha somewhat, though. I am not saying that you are necessarily wrong - rather that there are other equally, if not more, plausible explanations in many of the case studies you make. I don't have time to make an in-depth study myself right now but the following article does highlight some of the difficulties and will hopefully serve for further discussion:


    Are the Apocrypha Quoted in the New Testament? Question: Catholic apologists claims Jesus and His apostles quoted from the deuterocanonicals (the apocrypha), contrary to what you and others claim. It is said that there are many such references. [1]

    Answer: Is it true that there are many references in the New Testament to the apocrypha? And if there are any references, do they imply that the authors considered these writings as divine scripture? I took several hours comparing the New Testament verses given by the Catholic authors with the supposed references to the apocrypha. (I did not look up all of them, but I took a large enough sample to get a good idea). Here are my conclusions:

    1. Many of the supposed references are so vague that they could either be a reference to other works or else the similarity may simply be coincidental. They may not even be references to anything at all. That's why the Catholic apologist often says that one is "similar to" the other. I'm sure he'll find many "similar to's" if he compares the Bible to the Sunday newspaper!

    For example, we are told that Matthew 13:43, "Then the just will shine forth..." is found in Wisdom 3:7. This is "found in", so we should think that the link is very clear. Well, let's see what Wisdom 3:7 actually says: "And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble." What do you think? Both speak of 'shining', but can you really say that Jesus is quoting Wisdom? Hardly! By the same token Jesus may be referring to the Book of Daniel, which says: "And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament" (Daniel 12:3). Or perhaps Jesus is referring to neither one of them. After all Jesus actually said, "Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father" (Matthew 13:43). Wisdom is speaking about "sparks"; Jesus is speaking about a brightness like that of the sun! We are not impressed by the long list of this kind of references!

    2. There are some examples that are certainly not referring to the apocrypha at all. Luke 2:37 is supposedly found in Judith 8:4-6. "...as a widow...She never left the temple, but worshipped night and day with fasting and prayer." Give us a break! Luke is speaking about a the prophetess Anna, who lived many years after Judith; the former "never left the temple" whereas the latter "was a widow in her house."

    3 There are few examples that may be references to the apocrypha, the most clear one being Hebrews 11:35b (compared with 2 Maccabees 7:1-29). The incident recorded in Second Maccabees could have been in the mind of the author of Hebrews, but then, similar incidents are recorded in the writings of the Jewish historian, Josephus. [2] It is difficult to be certain what he had in mind. However, even if this is a reference to the apocrypha, by no means is the author of Hebrews implying divine authority to Maccabees (or to Josephus for that matter).

    The New Testament authors also draw from works other than the Holy Scriptures. For example, the apostle Paul quotes pagan poets and writers (1 Corinthians 15:33; Acts 17:28); Jude quotes from the Jewish apocryphal books of Enoch and the Assumption of Moses. Obviously an author may cite something from a work that he takes to be true without thereby ascribing divine authority to that work. Just as no one considers the Greek poets or the Jewish "Assumption of Moses" as inspired, the same applies to any references to the apocrypha. In a sermon, the preacher may quote Shakespeare or Socrates or whoever else he wants, as long at the particular statement fits his purpose, and yet he does not imply that all that Shakespeare and Socrates ever wrote is gospel truth!

    4 By contrast to the possible and vague references to the apocrypha, the references to the Old Testament books are both clear, and more importantly they imply that those books carried divine authority. For example in John 10:34,35 the Lord Jesus quotes from Psalm 82:6, and immediately comments that the scriptures cannot be broken. For the apostle Paul, "it is written" (in the Old Testament books) was the sure ground for his doctrinal teaching. Thus the New Testament testifies to divine authority of the Old Testament. Significantly there are no such quotations to the apocrypha that imply divine inspiration of these books.

    As an example of how the Jesus uses the Scriptures, it’s profitable to study a specific portion of the New Testament, say Mark chapter 12 (I chose this chapter simply because we read it at church tonight). You notice first of all, that Jesus is quoting from the Old Testament books - Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy and the Psalms - and that there are no similar quotations from the apocrypha. Moreover, they are not the kind of vague allusions, but clear-cut quotations (almost word for word). And finally, it is clear that Jesus is using the Old Testament quotations because He believes (as well as His Jewish audience) that they have the authority of the Word of God. He uses prophecy to explain why the Jews had rejected Him; to establish an important doctrine about the resurrection and to determine which commandment is the greatest; and to show that He is not a mere man (He is Lord of David, not only the son of David, and therefore Divine). Obviously, His arguments would have not carried any weight if He and the Jews did not believe that the Scriptures quoted were inspired and part of the canon.

    In brief, the quotations and references to the Old Testament by Jesus and the NT writers provide strong evidence in favour of the Jewish canon (as in the Protestant Bible); whereas the absence of similar quotations to the apocrypha argues against the canonicity of these books.

    References:

    [1] See The Canon of Scripture and The Deuterocanonicals [back]

    [2] "The martyrdom of a heroic mother and her seven sons occupies a prominent place in the Chanukah story, and has inspired generations of Jews. Although a brief version of this story is presented in the Talmud and Midrash, the Book of Maccabees and Yosipon (Josephus) give much lengthier and detailed accounts, with significant variations." www.shemayisrael.com/chanukah/more/chanah.

    http://www.justforcatholics.org/a63.htm


    James Trimm said:
    The Clear Truth
    About the Apocrypha By James Scott Trimm

    The term “Apocrypha” can be confusing at times, because it can be used in many different ways. For the purpose of this article, the term “Apocrypha” refers to the following collection of tthirteen books:

    1 Esdras
    2 Esdras
    Tobit
    Judith
    Wisdom of Solomon
    Wisdom of Ben Sira
    Baruch
    Letter of Jeremiah
    The Prayer of Manasseh
    1 Maccabee
    2 Maccabee
    3 Maccabee
    4 Maccabee

    These are books which are regarded as canon by some, but not all groups of Christians. I have not included in this list:

    Additions to Esther
    The Prayer of the Three Young Men
    Susana
    Bel and the Dragon
    Psalm 151

    These are not actually books, but rather extracts from “long versions” of the books of Esther. Daniel and Psalms. Whether or not the “long” versions of these books should be used is another, very important question, but not the question we are dealing with in this article.

    We will also not discuss other books which are not part of these thirteeen books, which have some claim to authority (such as 1Enoch and the Book of Jasher).

    The thirteen books mentioned above were originally part of the Tanak (the so-called “Old Testament”) and were taken out of your Bible! In the following article I intend to prove beyond any doubt, that these thirteen books were originally part of the Bible and have since been removed.

    The word “Apocrypha” means literally “hidden” indicating that these books were being removed from their place in Scripture, and placed or “hidden” in an appendix in the back of the book.


    THE ANCIENT CANONS

    None of these thiteen books are to be found in the canon of the Masoretic Text. However, the Masoretic Text is a rather late compilation, being a product of the Masorites between the 7th and 11th centuries C.E..

    However the much older canon of the Greek Septuagint text, the translation of which was begun by the third century B.C.E. and completed before 132 B.C.E., included all of these books with the exception of 2 Esdras.

    Also the canon of Aramaic Peshitta Tanak which was translated from the Hebrew, probably in the second century C.E.. contains all of these books except for 1 Esdras.

    The books are also to be found in the fifth century canon of the so-called Christian Palestinian Aramaic Version.

    These books are also to be found in the canons of the Old Slavonic, Old Armenian, Old Georgian and Old Coptic and Old Ethiopic versions of the Tanak.

    These books are also to be found in the canon of the Old Latin version of the Tanak, and all but 2nd and 3rd Maccabees (though in modern editions 1st and 2nd Esdras are moved to an appendix).

    In short, the earliest canon to omit these thirteeen books, is that of the Masoretic Text, which does not arise until the 7th to 11th centuries CE!


    THE CHURCH FATHERS

    One critic of the Apocrypha claimed: “The majority of the early church writers rejected these books as being inspired.”

    This is absolutely false. Originally when writing this article, I intended to include quotations in which the pre-Nicean “Church Fathers” quote from the books of the Apocrypha as “Scripture”. I began gathering these quotes and soon realized that this task was well beyond the scope of this article. These “Church Fathers” do not just occasionally quote the books of the Apocrypha, they quote these books with as much consistency as the quote the other books of the Tanak And in quoting these books they refer to them as “Scripture” and even “Divine Scripture.” Among these “Church Fathers” are Ignatius, Polycarp, Pseudo-Barnabas, Clement of Rome, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Irenaeus, Eusebius, Cyprian and Tertullian. This clearly demonstrates that the earliest “Christians” used these books and regarded them as canon.


    ANCIENT JEWISH USAGE

    Some or all of these books were used by the Essene community at Qumran. Among the manuscripts of Biblical books found among the Dead Sea Scrolls are also included many manuscripts of books of the Apocrypha including Ben Sira, Tobit and the Letter of Jeremiah. These texts are all Hebrew and Aramaic except for one fragment of the Letter of Jeremiah in Greek. There is every reason to believe that the Qumran Community accepted these books as part of their canon.

    Josephus in his historical works makes use of historical portions of the Apocrypha. He makes use of both 1st and 2nd Maccabees and follows 1 Esdras as his primary source over the books of Ezra and Nehemiah, including the account of the competition in 1 Esdras 3:1-5:6 which is not to be found in Ezra or Nehemiah.

    The Talmud quotes Ben Sira as “Scripture” three times (b.Hag. 13a; b.Yev. 63b; b.Ket.110b) six times in Midrash Rabbah (X:6; LXXIII:12; XCI:3; XXXIII:1; VII, 19; XII,11) and once in the Zohar (Raya Mehemna 42b).

    The stories of the books of Tobit, Judith and the Maccabees also find themselves transcribed, usually in an abridged form, into the Midrashim.


    USED IN THE NT

    One critic of the Apocrypha wrote “These books existed before New Testament times, yet there is not one single quotation from the Apocrypha is in the New Testament.”

    This is at the very least misleading, and at the very most, false.

    These books were clearly used by the earliest believers in Messiah. While they are never quoted outright in the “New Testament”, they are often strongly alluded to.

    The following comparisons are all taken from the KJV version for consistency.


    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
    clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his
    eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because
    that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were
    thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish
    heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became
    fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image
    made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and
    creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
    through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies
    between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and
    worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is
    blessed for ever. Amen.
    For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
    women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
    burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
    which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of
    their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain
    God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do
    those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all
    unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness;
    full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,"
    (Rom. 1:20-29)

    Clearly alluding to:

    For by the greatness and beauty of the creatures proportionably the
    maker of them is seen. ... Howbeit neither are they to be pardoned.
    ...They kept neither lives nor marriages any longer undefiled: but
    either one slew another traiterously, or grieved him by adultery....
    For the worshipping of idols not to be named is the beginning, the
    cause, and the end, of all evil."
    (Wis. 13:5, 8; 14:24,27)

    --------

    "Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the
    thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
    Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one
    vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour. What if God, willing
    to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much
    longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he
    might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy,
    which he had afore prepared unto glory,"
    (Rom. 9:20-23)

    Certainly alluding to:

    "For who shall say, What hast thou done? or who shall withstand thy
    judgment? or who shall accuse thee for the nations that perish, whom
    thou made? or who shall come to stand against thee, to be revenged for
    the unrighteous men?... For if thou didst punish the enemies of thy
    children, and the condemned to death, with such deliberation, giving
    them time and place, whereby they might be delivered from their
    malice:... For the potter, tempering soft earth, fashioneth every
    vessel with much labour for our service: yea, of the same clay he
    maketh both the vessels that serve for clean uses, and likewise also
    all such as serve to the contrary: but what is the use of either sort,
    the potter himself is the judge."
    (Wis. 12:12, 20; 15:7)

    ------

    "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were
    dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands,
    eternal in the heavens....
    For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for
    that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be
    swallowed up of life."
    (2Cor. 5:1, 4)

    No doubt Paul is alluding to:

    "For the corruptible body presseth down the soul, and the earthy
    tabernacle weigheth down the mind that museth upon many things."
    (Wis. 9:15)

    ------

    "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against
    the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
    but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
    darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able
    to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand
    therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the
    breastplate of righteousness;
    And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above
    all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench
    all the fiery darts of the wicked.
    And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which
    is the word of God:"
    Eph. 6:11-17

    Well it does not take much to figure out that Paul did not invent the
    "full/complete armour" of Elohim , but drew the idea from:

    "He shall take to him his jealousy for complete armour, and make the
    creature his weapon for the revenge of his enemies. He shall put on
    righteousness as a breastplate, and true judgment instead of an
    helmet. He shall take holiness for an invincible shield. His severe
    wrath shall he sharpen for a sword, and the world shall fight with him
    against the unwise."
    (Wis 5:17-20)

    "...he [Eleazar] conqured the besiegers with the shield of his devout
    reason. ... Therefore let us put on the full armour of self-control. .."
    (4Macc. 7:4; 13:16 RSV)

    -----

    "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God
    waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein
    few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.: The like figure
    whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of
    the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward
    God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"
    (1Pt. 3:20-21)

    Kefa is alluding to the allegory in 4Maccabees:

    "For like a most skilful pilot, the reason of our father Eleazar
    steered the ship of religion over the sea of the emotions, and though
    buffeted by the stormings of the tyrant and overwhelmed by the mighty
    waves of tortures, in no way did he turn the rudder of religion until
    he sailed into the haven of immortal victory....
    Just as Noah's ark, carrying the world in the universal flood, stoutly
    endured the waves, so you, O guardian of the law, overwhelmed from
    every side by the flood of your emotions and the violent winds, the
    torture of your sons, endured nobly and withstood the wintry storms
    that assail religion."
    (4Macc. 7:1-3 15:31-32 RSV)

    -------

    "Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow
    to speak, slow to wrath:"
    (James 1:19)

    A near quote from Sirach:

    "Be swift to hear; and let thy life be sincere; and with patience give
    answer."
    (Sir. 5:11)

    ------

    "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God
    cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"
    (James 1:13)

    Again Ya'akov (James) draws from Sirach:

    "Say not thou, It is through the Lord that I fell away: for thou
    oughtest not to do the things that he hateth. Say not thou, He hath
    caused me to err: for he hath no need of the sinful man."
    (Sir. 15:11-12)

    -----

    "Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields,
    which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them
    which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth."
    (James 5:4)

    Seems to allude to Tobit:

    "Let not the wages of any man, which hath wrought for thee, tarry with
    thee, but give him it out of hand: for if thou serve God, he will also
    repay thee: be circumspect my son, in all things thou doest, and be
    wise in all thy conversation. " (Tobit 4:14)

    -----

    "And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were
    given seven trumpets." (Rev. 8:2)

    This concept draws from Tobit:

    "I am Raphael, one of the seven holy angels, which present the prayers
    of the saints, and which go in and out before the glory of the Holy
    One." (Tobit 12:15)

    -----

    "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in
    heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power,
    unto the Lord our God:...
    And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all
    manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the
    second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;:
    The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the
    eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the
    eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.: And the twelve gates
    were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the
    street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass." (Rev.
    19:1; 21:19-21)

    Again the idea draws from Tobit:

    "And the streets of Jerusalem shall be paved with beryl and carbuncle
    and stones of Ophir.
    And all her streets shall say, Alleluia; and they shall praise him,
    saying, Blessed be God, which hath extolled it for ever." (Tobit 13:17-18)

    ------

    Another case if founs in comparing Jude 1:6-7 and 2Peter 2:4-6 with 3Maccabees 2:4-5:

    6: And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
    7: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    (Jude 1:6-7 KJV)

    4: For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
    5: And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
    6: And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
    (2Peter 2:4-6 KJV)

    This reference to the fallen angels event of Gen. 6 which brought the birth of “giants” wiped out by the flood immediately followed by a reference to the judgment of Sodom certainly alludes to:

    It was thou who didst destroy the former workers of unrighteousness, among whom were the giants, who trusted in their strength and hardihood, by covering them with a measureless flood.
    It was thou who didst make the Sodomites, those workers of exceeding iniquity, men notorious for their vices, an example to after generations, when thou didst cover them with fire and brimstone.
    (3Macc. 2:4-5)

    (Notice also the common phrase “an example to after generations/those after”)


    SETTING SOME THINGS STRAIGHT

    There are many claims made by those who oppose the Apocrypha, which need to be addressed:

    1. "the lack of any Hebrew originals"

    This argument fails on three levels.

    First of all it fails because we do have Hebrew originals for at least
    parts of several of the books of the Apocrypha including Tobit,
    Judith, Ben Sira and 1Maccabees. We also have Aramaic Peshitta
    versions of all but 1Esdras, and we have good reason to believe (based
    on comparing the Hebrew of the Tanak and Ben Sira with the Aramaic of
    the Peshitta) that most or all of these were translated directly from
    the Hebrew and very literally. (For those that do not know, Aramaic
    is very similar to Hebrew, so a literal Aramaic translation of a
    Hebrew original is almost as good as having the Hebrew itself).

    Second of all, at the time Rabbinic Judaism rejected these books most
    of all of them still existed in Hebrew, and at the time Protestantism
    rejected them, more of them existed in Hebrew than exist now. This is
    circular thinking. The Hebrew originals have largely been lost (or in
    some cases fallen into obscurity) because Protestantism and Rabbinic
    Judaism rejected them, and now they should be rejected because the
    Hebrew originals have been lost or fallen into obscurity.

    A similar situation exists with certain books of the "New Testament".
    For example we can now establish beyond any real doubt that
    Revelation was originally written in Hebrew, but the original Hebrew
    is now lost and only Aramaic and Greek remain. Even for those of us
    who maintain Hebrew and Aramaic origins for the books of the NT, no
    good contenders for the original Hebrew or Aramaic of 2Kefa, 2 & 3
    Yochanan and Jude are currently known. Would one also have us reject
    these books?

    2. "and many of them contain theologically or factually problematic
    statements"

    Again, those who reject all or part of the Bible make the same
    argument against the books that are in the canon. Antimissionaries
    make the same arguments against the NT. Certainly the canonical books
    contain statements which have been used by various groups as proof
    texts to "prove" various false doctrines. Moreover we are still
    trying to resolve just exactly what the original Hebrew and Aramaic of
    these books actually says.

    OBJECTION:

    1 and 2 Macabees disagree on how Antiochus IV died. 1 Mac 6:8-16 says
    he became grief stricken and died of sorrow in his bed. 2 Mac 9 says
    God struck him with a disease in his bowels on the battlefield and he was
    hurled from his chariot, dieing painfully on the ground with worms coming
    out of his eyes and his flesh rotting as the army looked on. Obviously,
    both accounts cannot be true, but both accounts appear in the Catholic
    edition of "Scripture".

    RESPONSE:

    This reminds me of anti-missionary arguments that Matthew and Acts
    disagree on how Judas died. When the various manuscript versions are
    compared in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek we find that the two accounts
    can be resolved. In fact the original Hebrew of 1Maccabees has many
    agreements with 2Maccabees on the death of Antiochus Epiphanies
    against the Greek version of 1Maccabees.

    CLAIM:

    2 Macabees encourages us to pray for the dead, a common Catholic
    practice. This practice is justified by this passage...

    "Judas urged the people to keep themselves free from all
    sin,....he took a collection from them individually, amounting
    to nearly two thousand drachmae, and sent it to Jerusalem to have
    a sacrifice for the sin offered, an altogether fine and noble action,
    in which he took full account of the resurrection. For if he had not
    expected the fallen to rise again, it would have been superflurious
    to pray for the dead, whereas if he had in view the splendid recompense
    reserved for those who make a pious end, the thought was holy and
    devout. This was why he had this atonement sacrifice
    offered for the dead, so that they might be released from their sin."
    (2 Mac 12:42-45, The Jerusalem Bible)

    This passage was used to support the Catholic idea of indulgences –
    that money can buy atonement for one's sins by someone other than
    the sinner even after he died!!!!

    Just because a certain passage has been misused by some group does not
    mean the book should be rejected. If that were the case we would
    reject the canon based on its misuse by the Jehovah's Witnesses.

    OBJECTION:

    2 Mac 5:12-16 claims that Jeremiah prayed for Israel after he died,
    which provided the Catholic Church it's basis for praying to Mary
    and other cannonized "saints". In fact that essentially means that
    there were corruptions in the Catholic Church that did not come
    from paganism but from ancient writings written by Jewish men ....
    but rejected by the overwhelming majority of Jewish leaders.

    RESPONSE:

    Although Catholics have justified this doctrine from this passage this
    is only rationalizing of a doctrine they transferred from paganism.
    They pray to various "saints" as to pagan gods. This event was much
    more akin to that of the mount of transfiguration event in Matthew 17.

    OBJECTION:

    Sirach, found only in the Apocrypha, also promotes this concept by
    saying "almsgiving atones for sins." (Sirach 3:33) and Tobit also says
    "alms deliver from all sin, and from death, and will not suffer the soul
    to go into darkness." (Tobit 4:11).

    I assume they refer to Sira 3:29 which is 3:30 in some versions. The
    Hebrew may be understood as "Therefore the almsgiver shall be atoned
    for his sins" (no cause and effect indicated) and the Aramaic
    literally reads "Therefore the almsgiver forsakes his sins".
    The KJV of Tobit 4:10-11 reads:

    10: Because that alms do deliver from death, and suffereth not to come
    into darkness.
    11: For alms is a good gift unto all that give it in the sight of the
    most High.

    The Hebrew of Tobit 4:11 reads "… and alms do deliver from death; and
    everyone who occupies himself in almsgiving shall behold the face of
    Elohim, as it is written, "I will behold your face by almsgiving" (Ps.
    17:15)

    Likewise we read in Proverbs” “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of YHWH men depart from evil.” (Prov. 16:6)… should we remove Proverbs from the canon?

    OBJECTION:

    Sirach 10:26 even says "Do not try to be smart when you do your work.".
    Why not? My career would be in ruins if I followed that advice.

    RESPONSE:

    The Aramaic says "Be not lazy when you do your work"


    OBJECTION:

    Judith 1:1 incorrectly claims that Nebuchadnezzar was king of Assyria
    when he was king of Babylon and claims that he reigned from Ninevah,
    contrary to the Scriptures which tell us he reigned from Babylon..
    Keep in mind that it was the Assyrians that captured the Northern
    Kingdom of Israel/Ephraim and the Babylonians that captured the
    southern kingdom of Judah.

    Another critic says:
    They [The Apocrypha] abound in historical and geographical inaccuracies and anachronisms. [referring to the book of Judith]

    RESPONSE:

    This "problem" is just plain silliness. The proper names in the Book
    of Judith were encoded. The Book was written during the Maccabean
    rebellion and names were changed to protect Judith herself as well as
    anyone possessing a copy pf the book. "Nebuchadnezzar" stood in place
    of "Antiochus Epiphanies" because both names have the same numerical
    value (gematria) in Hebrew. "Assyria" is used as code for the
    Seleucid Empire, and "Nineveh" is the codeword used for "Antioch".
    These facts are well recognized in the Midrashim which refer to this
    story with that decoding scheme.


    HOW DID WE GET OUR CANON?

    Now it is very unlikely that early Christians, after their split from Nazarene Judaism would have adopted any books from Rabbinic Jews. Thus any “Old Testament” books used as canon by the earliest Christians would have to have been inherited to them from their Nazarene forefathers.

    The evidence is overwhelming, these books were originally part of the Bible and have since been removed.

    James Trimm
    Worldwide Nazarene Assembly of Elohim
    http://www.wnae.org

    One author claims:

    The apocrypha wasn’t included at first in the Septuagint, but was appended by the Alexandrian Jews, and was not listed in any of the catalogues of the inspired books till the 4th century.

    http://www.bible.ca/catholic-apocrypha.htm

    Does anyone know if that is historically accurate?

    As this has now developped into a separate discussion on the APOCRYPHA I have created a separate group specifically for that topic so that we can continue the debate there. I am copying the relevent posts over to the Apocryphal Group at:

    Apocrypha Group

    Well, should all of those fasts be kept nowadays?

    James Trimm said:
    'The fast of the fourth month' took place on the 17th Tammuz in memory of the taking of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar and the interruption of the daily sacrifice. To this tradition adds, that it was also the anniversary of making the golden calf, and of Moses breaking the Tables of the Law.

    The fast of the fifth month,' on the 9th of Ab, was kept on account of the destruction of the first (and afterwards of the second) Temple. It is significant that the second Temple (that of Herod) was destroyed on the first day of the week. Tradition has it, that on that day God had pronounced judgment that the carcasses of all who had come out of Egypt should fall in the wilderness, and also, that again it was fated much later to witness the fulfilment of Jeremiah 26:18-23, when a Roman centurion had the ploughshare drawn over the site of Zion and of the Temple.

    'The fast of the seventh month,' on the 2nd of Tishri, is said by tradition to be in memory of the slaughter of Gedaliah and his associates at Mizpah (Jer 41:1).

    'The fast of the tenth month' was on the 10th of Tebeth, when the siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar commenced.

    Yes of course.

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