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    Apostate 'christianity' and 'prophet' mediums

    Posted by Lev/Christopher on November 7, 2008 at 2:50am
    in Deliverance, Psychiatry & Demonic Oppression

    Posted by ChristTheLion777 on 22 June 2008 in MLTR

    In my travels I have come accross many and varied kinds of individuals ... much of the time of my life I have dealt with spiritual attacks and intrusions with a great deal of warfare going on, usually by those 'wanting' something from you...in one form or another. One often wonders why dont they just ask the Source of Light and Life, who gives freely and live a straight and honorable life.

    In my seeking spiritual prayer and deliverance, I could not help but notice the enemy secretly working among so called 'christians' and 'deliverance ministers' using 'angels appearing as of light', but not true light..., but an energy made to 'appear as light'.

    I was under severe attack in one particular instance, and after googleing found 'Shepherds Heart' located in Canberra, run by a 'John and Glenys Darnell', who also ran a weekend intensive/retreat for those needing 'deliverance' and help with 'psychic intrusion'....He insisted I 'take the chance' with him and seemed to get 'angry' when I showed doubt....

    I went, with an open heart to God and to offer what I could to contribute. Almost straight away, this person seemed in a thoughtful way antagonistic towards me, insistiing I 'renounce' my '3rd eye'....He did this at every opportunity he could, including in front of the group to 'pressure me'...as though all my 'evils and problems' had to do with this....I flatly refused, instead offering to renouce all that was not of God (which I had done countless times)....

    He and his wife Glenys also encouraged the group to 'let out all thier frustrations at God for 'letting them in this mess' in case they felt it, and even to abuse Him....I stated this was incorrect, as the example of Job showed this. They also stopped me short of speaking about Harry Potter and how it trained a child to subcounsiously think like a witch and take on that persona. His wife Glenys 'read it' to see 'what it said' she related prior to my wanting to make that comment.

    Thier local 'prophetess medium' also got angry at me quite red faced when I would not renounce my 3rd eye. They got everyone to renounce thier 'right to judge' as a group, which I did not do as they said, as the bible says we are to judge angels etc, and what is called the 3rd eye is really the seat of the spirit which resides with the Spirit of God where YHWH places His Seal...., renouncing that part of ones person then leaves it vacant for possession by anything...its just insane....

    I ended up leaving half-way through, and felt ever since attacked in my forehead area by them esp. at certain times early evening and it felt as though something was attacking my forehead area blocking my sight and spiritually attacking and stealing from me, I experienced it much of the time from him and his mob..., while dealing with other battles. They were actually helping spiritual evil was battling in the guise of serving 'Christ'. I felt a very false spirit there with them, and felt defiled by him/them, esp. at thier communion, which I renounced, and them, and thier 'false god' and those that were behind them...

    I have come across a number of times seeded in penticostal churches that 'false spirit' in some so-called 'prophets', and knew they were false, that spirits were communicating through them, as with the Darnells, pretending to be 'messengers of 'god''....., they use an 'energy' that appears almost like light, is calming and hypnotic, and lulls you into a 'submission' to the will of thier spirits and them, so that one can be taken over by them....its quite insidious...., and a sign of the last day apostate church....
    There are also however, some very good people in those churches also, the wheat and the tares the bible says.

    We really need to be careful wherever we go, as the enemy is attackintg and deceiving and defiling on every front 'it' can, to destroy the image of God in Yahshua within His people...., to 'decieve even the elect: if possible'.....

    ...so, be careful, be VERY CAREFUL....

    God bless


    My reply:
    I was sorry to hear of your bad experiences and endorse your warning message wholeheartedly. I know many people who have had bad encounters with deliverance ministries operaying under counterfeit light.

    The forehead area which occultists call the "third eye" is, as you say, where as believers Yahweh puts His mark and seal. To "renounce the third eye" is tantamount of closing down a part of yourself and rendering a soul blind. The only think we are to renounce is the enemy and the psychic, and rather invite the Ruach (Spirit) to operate in us.Torah says that it is over the forehead that we are to metaphorically wear the Torah - Yahweh's Law, on which we are to mediate day and night. Our responsibility is to dedicate every part of our being to Yahweh and invite Him to be the Master of it, third eye and all.

    You have to be very careful these days to be sure. Thank you for posting.

    ____________

    777's Reply:

    Its unbelievable... this person John Darnell with his wife Glenys, from Shepherds Heart, Canberra, are supposed to be freeing others from psychic intrusions, yet, he is one of the worst experiences I have had of violation.

    I have felt him and his wife and at times prophet/medium freind attacking my forehead region daily, usually in the evening and at other odd times, to the point where it has been difficult to even think, spiritually dominating me, or trying to...

    He and/or whatever is behind him, the false christ, wants to dominate and take over my will and part of my person, as with others. It feels like he is trying to take over part of my spirit/soul and use it....its bizarre...I experienced him initially as coming up behind me spiritually and communicating something to me, then I tangably experienced him spiritually sweeping under my legs on my left side to get me off balance and take something from me, ie: part of my mind or something like that....so weird...I actually saw something being taken from me, since then I have never quite been myself, ..... and who do you tell? Most Christians are very ignorant and would agree with him in touting the usual lines....

    Its got nothing to do with Christ, but being blind to the false christ and under thier subjugation. This apostate individual is prevailing in penticostal churches and what he has said is being accepted by most ignorant 'Christians'. With regards to what I reitereated, thier comments are: 'the 3rd eye is not of God, what need do you have of it?" its occult etc...

    I find the ignorant, self-rightous, nominal christianity that supports evil with a 'goody' attitude one of the most sickening things....

    I dont believe this person has a conscience and is directly a plant of the enemy appearing as a 'christian' using all the 'right words' to gain the trust of many, esp. those who are wounded and open...He gets them to 'renounce the right to judge' and then he tried to get me to 'renounce the 3rd eye' , and later told me he and his wife would not pray for me and that I was beyond prayer as I was 'demon-possessed' because I would not renounce my '3rd eye'....then he and those with him started the ongoing violations against my person to date...amazing...its just unbelievable....

    Take care....many wolves in sheeps clothing out there....


    It's the internal spiritual organ, if you will, that allows us to "see" inside. If you close your eyes and meditate you will discover that the locus of your concentration is somewhere between your two eyes. It is a favourite target of the enemy to influence your inner pictures and particularly those with the gift of seership. It is over this point that Jews traditionally wear phylacteries and Scripture specifically tells us to bind the Word of Yahweh here. In otherwords, the truth of Scripture must be the filter through which we "see" internally.

    Therefore my counsel to you is that you dedicate this area to Yah'shua, ask Him to take full control over it, expell all demonic and/or human connections (soul-ties) to it in His Name through the power of His atoning blood, and ask Him to close this door to everyone and everything except Him. Daily ask Him to fill you here with the Ruach haQodesh (Holy Spirit). My favourite daily scripture of meditation over this spot is the Shema: "Hear, O Israel, Yahweh our Elohim, Yahweh is Echad (One)".

    If you feel any "activity" here that feels alien (not you, not Yah'shua) then keep pleading the blood of Messiah over it. Regard it as a door to the Temple of the Ruach - it is set-apart to holiness and nothing else.

    You may find in starting this dedication that other things turn up as part of a wider deliverance. The most important thing in the first instance is to wrest conrol over it from any dark forces and psychic influence. It is used by occultists and psychics for divination - renounce this emphatically. Do not "use" it for a premeditated end - it is for Yahweh to use in His sovereignty and will.

    The 'third eye' (for wont of a better term - I use it only because it is part of the common vernacular) is simply the location or focal point of a huamn's thinking. If you close your eyes you will see that the point at which you aree concentrating is mid eay between your eyes. This is the point where both the mark of the antichrist and of Yah'shua are placed and is also the location Torah says we are to metaphorically bind the Word of Yahweh (from which has arisen the Jewish tradition of wearing phylacteries).

    It is well known that "brain type" functions occur in several organs of the body. The interplay of the creation with the Creator results in our witness. This is a fascinating topic I want to come back to, as with many matters of faith it boils down to the law of intent. Yeshua blessed the exiles in the west and the world with this principle and it is well grounded in the science of law. But I had a personal issue that some feedback would be greatly appreciated on. I stopped doing deliverance type interventions some years ago for what may be selfish reasons or simply obediance to the Father's will, you may judge as you see fit. The issue is that I became convicted that this type of warfare exacts a casualty on the soul to some degree and as such I am very careful and hesitant to intercede unless ABSOLUTELY convicted of the sincerity of the "host" or shell. What is the thinking here on this kind of consideration? I actually am dealing with an afflicted person now and it seems even to pray for them before they make certain professions and declarations of submission to Y'shua and eviction of the familiars, could be premature.

    Difficult one. You are right to exercise caution in any kind of deliverance work until you are sure the person seeking deliverance is sincere or not and actually prepared to rely on and submit to Yah'shua for without that commitment the deliverance minister is going to burn himself out. I have learned this lesson the hard way. I have never heard of someone being called a "shell" before.

    R. Keith Stoner said:
    It is well known that "brain type" functions occur in several organs of the body. The interplay of the creation with the Creator results in our witness. This is a fascinating topic I want to come back to, as with many matters of faith it boils down to the law of intent. Yeshua blessed the exiles in the west and the world with this principle and it is well grounded in the science of law. But I had a personal issue that some feedback would be greatly appreciated on. I stopped doing deliverance type interventions some years ago for what may be selfish reasons or simply obediance to the Father's will, you may judge as you see fit. The issue is that I became convicted that this type of warfare exacts a casualty on the soul to some degree and as such I am very careful and hesitant to intercede unless ABSOLUTELY convicted of the sincerity of the "host" or shell. What is the thinking here on this kind of consideration? I actually am dealing with an afflicted person now and it seems even to pray for them before they make certain professions and declarations of submission to Y'shua and eviction of the familiars, could be premature.

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