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    Book of Yasher/Jasher Threads

    To discuss the pseudepigraphical Book of Yasher/Jasher referenced in the Old Testament.


      THE BOOKS OF YASHER/JASHER

    The Books of Jasher are pseudepigraphical or apocryphal works. There are several (as many as five) separate works by this title, all composed much later than Biblical times. The one we use is a translation of a Hebrew book printed in 1613. Sepher haYasher, the Hebrew title of this book, means the 'Book of the Upright', or 'the Upright or Correct Record'. This title was misread as 'Jasher', and at some point Jasher was treated as a proper name; however the pronoun 'the' (hebrew 'ha') never preceeds proper names.

    There is also another spurious Book of Jasher, published 1750, in which Jasher is treated as the name of the author.

    The text covers much of the same ground as the traditional Mosaic books of the Bible, from the creation of the world to the death of Moses, albeit with several minor variations.

    MLT has no official position on the Book of Yasher and is open to what further research and studies may reveal on it. On balance, though, we are sceptical, and it troubles us that it is so much liked by occultists like Blavatsky and the Mormons who have reproduced it in support of their own writings.

    1. 1613 Book of Jasher
    2. Book pf Yasher/Jasher - Yahweh's Sword
    3. 1840 Book of Jasher
    4. Discussion of Jasher in Nazarene Space
    5. Scroll of Yashar - Koniouchowsky Version


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    Comment by Lev/Christopher on November 20, 2009 at 11:05am
    Just because a book is bigger than one (Genesis) it purports to go into more detail about doesn't necessarily mean it is true. The Book of Mormons claims to give "more" than the Bible but that doesn't make it true. More detail doesn't necessarily mean more 'facts' - there are false Infancy Gospels that claims to give more 'facts' than the New Testament but some of them are so obviously bogus. Furthermore, if the firs believers managed without jasher than so can we ;)



    Comment by DAVID OMWENO ONGORI on November 20, 2009 at 7:07am
    we can get more facts from the book of Jasher us we can be reading them and we compare with the rest.



    Comment by R. Keith Stoner on November 16, 2009 at 6:48pm
    The only extant source volumes are these we know were confabulated from fragments in possession of Rome. These are the oldest and from textual critical standing the most reliable, whatever that means in terms of a gap of 2 millenia from the events described. Which places the book on an equal footing with many other non-canonical works. Many of the interesting items in there are seemingly borrowed from any number of traditions. The WW doctrine for example is bolstered by cabbaging on to the dubious claim that Malki Tzedek was in fact Shem. I don't buy it for a moment, and it saddens me that otherwise bombastic proponents of NT cannonicity sell out Messiah Himself on this murky & materialistic claim of the book of Jasher.



    Comment by Lev/Christopher on November 13, 2009 at 1:40am
    Of all the extant versions, which do you think is nearest the original?



    Comment by R. Keith Stoner on November 12, 2009 at 2:52pm
    The newer Mormon version is the less reliable. None of the extant versions resembles a period text that could be said to represent a reasonable facsimile of the period in question. 4th century roman Cyril the pagan quoted fragments arguing with Nestorious for theotekosos . Authorship is likely from a subsequent reconstruction, While an even earlier reference by Marcion further clouds the value of modern versions.



    Comment by Robin Lynn Hamar on November 12, 2009 at 2:06pm
    Would the Book of Jasher make the 1840 version more valid than the 1613 version?

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