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    Defending the unborn child and educating our members and the public as to what abortion is really all about.
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    Comment by karen on March 13, 2010 at 5:38pm
    yes absolutley right, however the motive for this article is to let people who are decieved through selfish reasons understand that there is no excuse for abortion, no matter what thier justification might be. And yes it is murder, unfortunatley many people in this last damned generation are raised believing the lies of Babylon, And my prayer is that YHWH will grant them repentence just as He did me, and that as a result they will choose the way, the truth and the life, Yeshua and come out of darkness, and out of the clutches of Satan who holds them captive to do His will.


    Comment by DAVID OMWENO ONGORI on March 13, 2010 at 7:08am
    Abortion is murder and is anlawful to God and for the one doing it will be charged through these evil event.


    Comment by Christian on October 24, 2009 at 10:45am
    Lev you are correct - the giving of children in fire, and abortion - they are the same indeed. As is often the case, an earlier more dramatic, burning example went before the cold, hidden truth of today - to the extent people can only recognize the exactitude of similarity between the two events when given the Set-Apart Breath and its perspective.


    Comment by Lev/Christopher on October 23, 2009 at 10:47am
    Amen and amen Lahry. Abortion is, in effect, a revival of the old pagan Molech worship. It is the backbone of satanism. And I fully agree with you - there is forgiveness. There have been many precious moments in the ministry where I have witnessed mothers not only receiving forgiveness but becoming reunited with their aborted babies! They are amongst the most amazing experiences I have had - seeing the joy on a mother's face when she has been reunited with the spirit of her dead child. As part of the deliverance the mother has named the child (once its gender has been revealed ... and if not, a name that can be used of either sex like Leslie) and seen the operation of the Spirit of Elijah.

    Like you I was involved in an organisation that not only gave lectures against abortion but also provided pregnant mothers with a place to have an unwanted child as well as adoption facilities. I am not sure if it still operates in the UK but it was called CARE (not to be confused with another ministry in the USA of the same name). We used to go around schools and other organisations appraising them of the facts. I doubt that would be legal now in the current murderous political climate of liberality and political correctness.

    Abortion has to be declared for what it is - infanticide and Molech worship. We have had many holocausts of human beings on this planet but this one is surely the worst, most bloody and most abominable of them all.


    Comment by Lahry Sibley on October 23, 2009 at 8:14am
    My wife and I were very involved in this battle against baby murder in the early years of our marriage. We had a radio program on KHIS in Bakersfield, Ca. We had a lady on our program whose mom changed the mind about killing her right on the operating table and would not let the doctor do his gastly work. Her testimony was simply overwhelming.

    I want to speak to those who have had an unborn life ended in them in times past. I want you to know, that it is not the unpardonable sin. Yahweh forgives when we confess our sins. But as a reminder, Yah'shua told the woman at the well to "sin no more". As with all sin, socially acceptable or not, Yah'shua says sin no more.

    Anyone who repents can be forgiven. However, the consequences may linger on for a life time. Satan will try to steal your peace that comes from Yah'shua's forgiveness by placing emphasis on the consequences and trying to make you forget His grace. Rest it with Him, beloved.

    Shedding of innocent blood, in or out of the womb is a serious crime. It is the first crime recorded in the Bible after the fall. Cain slew his brother Abel. Yahweh said that Abel's "blood cries out". That word "blood" is actually plural. Why? Because not only did Cain slay his brother, but he slew all his brother's future decendants as well. That is why Yahweh is so appalled with baby murder. If you stop and think of all the baby murders performed in the world to date, in and out of the womb, and all the potential decendants of those children slain this way, then the number of innocent bloods shed is off the chart.
    Father, I pray for the women who have made this terrible mistake, and the men who may be reading also, who were a co-conspirator in baby killings. Lord, I pray for Your forgiveness for them. Lord, give them the ability to feel your peace and love deep within. Comfort them with the Spirit of Your power. Lord, give them the gut wrenching determination that they will never ever do this again. More Lord, cause them to champion the cause of life. Open doors of opportunity for them to reach out to others, especially, those young women who may be contemplating the murder of their unborn child in this hour. Have mercy on us all, oh Lord. For none of us has done all we can to try and stop this holocaust. Forgive us Lord, and help us to do much better in the days to come. In Yah'shua's name we ask it. Amen and amen.

    Baby murder is a symptom of an underlying cause for all sin. Immoral behavior is the trap that apprehends souls, and one thing leads to another. It reminds me of that famous 3 point message I will never forget. "Sin will take you farther, than you intended to go. Sin will keep you there longer, than you intended to stay. Sin will always cost you more, than you were willing to pay". Stop the immoral behavior, and the temptation to murder babies will stop as well. Repent, turn away from all sin, forever. That is the first step in putting an end to all baby murder. Turn to Yahweh. Seek His face in prayer. He will hear from heaven, and heal our land, and our hearts. Glory to Yahweh!

    Lahry


    Comment by Christian on October 22, 2009 at 11:29am
    I've seen the videos of the Abortion survivor before, very inspiring stuff - I have a friend who committed abortion, so it's something I know and care about.


    Comment by Robin Lynn Hamar on October 22, 2009 at 9:27am
    Even though Gianna was aborted by her mother and survived, her mother had a hatred towards her. My mother had alot of hatred towards me and did things to me in the womb with some help from others that were traumatizing and to this day she still can't address the traumas of my birth but I haven't processed my pain yet which will come later. I just see a very damaging individual that was treated with much cruelty and not allowed to become a fully functioning creative individual and that parts of her soul have died.


    Comment by Peter Rodriguez on October 22, 2009 at 7:44am
    Shalom to all. I know that this theme of abortion deals with the internal aspects of the mother and her unimaginable torments and the death of the little person inside her. I would like to say a few things about the external consecuences of abortions. For the most part society sees what is going on in the here and now but what about the future of a nation or a religion or a race because of abortion? Islam has surpassed the Catholic religion. Why? Because Islam does not practice abortion, nor permit homosexuallity(though they may have them secretly), they can have more than one wife thereby multiplying their population maybe 4 or 5 to 1 where as the western nations abort millions of little people a year to include Israel (50,000/year). Our biblical forefathers had more than one wife and the Catholic church changed that mindset. They did not tolorate homosexuallity and did not practice abortion as a nation. Now days we do practice abortions, homosexuallity (even in the churches or synagogues, and tolerate other believes. In a decade or two Europe will be an Islamic continent! I know that Yahweh will do His will but there is a price to pay for disobedience to Torah. The curse (alla) is here and only Yahweh in Yahshua can fix this problem. Thank you. In Yahshua Peter


    Comment by Robin Lynn Hamar on October 22, 2009 at 7:11am
    Abortion comes in different ways for different people its in all how people process their pain and healing process. I'm not saying its right I just feel there must be some type of trauma in their past mindset in their childhood that causes them to go that way.


    Comment by Robin Lynn Hamar on October 22, 2009 at 7:06am
    I can start discussing some issues with abortion but don't know how much. I have seen Gianna's topic on her discussion of her experience and how God feels about her as a person I thought it was thought provoking and direct which it needs to be.

    I have come across issues but don't know the details or specifics about it. I did try to listen to a discussion on the subject but it wasn't discussed. She just generalized the information but didn't give specifics.

    Post-Abortive Stress and the RA survivor - its causes, impact on RA survivors and the Healing Steps towards Freedom. I felt that I need some form of processing that allows me to address Post Abortion Syndrome. Its not that I am experiencing all the symptoms I just feel that the pain is under the surface and it hasn't come up. I just know its there. Some people are who experience this have people around them that are evil so some atrosities are done to people without their consent.

    TRANSFORMATION http://www.abortionfacts.com/learn/healing_program.asp
    discusses how to grieve your loss by Dr. Karen Stevenson

    Post Abortion Syndrome has these symptoms:

    Depession
    Increased Numbing
    Emotional Numbing
    Anixety/Fearfulness
    Nightmares or Flashbacks
    Suicidal Thoughts
    Avoidance of reminders of the abortion, or of anything having to do with babies
    Anger or Rage Reactions
    Alcohol or other Substance Abuse (this is probably used to deal with the guilt or pain from the abortion)
    Eating Disorders
    Chaotic Relationships
    Deterioration or Self-Concept
    Anniversary Syndrome-mood or behvior changes each year nar the time of the abortion, or the baby's due date
    Problems bonding with children or overprotecting future children
    Sexual Disorders

    The Post Abortion Syndrome may rob the persn of her joy as she carries the burden of unresolved grief. This burden weighs her down and imprisons her in pain.

    Robin

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