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What is God's True Name? Is It Important?
Posted by Lev/Christopher on October 20, 2009 at 8:16am in Forum
I half agree with the article that follows. Since this is a response to the True Name Movement by Evangelicals I thought it should be discussed. As an Evangelical I agree that what the Name stands for is more important than the pronunciation itself. As a Messianic I do believe it is right to honour the Father and the Son with their true names as far as that is possible (no one is 100% sure so we have to be generous in this area). What do you think? I think some of the arguments here are valid and others are bogus.
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What is God's True Name?
http://iswasandwillbe.com/True_name_of_God.php
Posted October 19, 2009
Hi Mike,
Did you ever heard about the Hebrew name for our Lord Jesus Christ is IEUE and or Alueim. I never heard of it, but maybe you have.
R____
Hi R____,
I have certainly heard of it! There are those who claim that we cannot claim to know the true God if we don't physically pronounce His physical name correctly. Believe me when I tell you that when Paul said...
Rom 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
...the last thing on his mind is how these people were pronouncing God's name. The preceding verses show what is meant by the word 'name' in scripture:
Rom 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
How we live our lives is how we show whether we have God's 'name' or the name of "another Jesus." It doesn't matter to God whether we call Christ 'Jesus' or 'Iesous.' It makes no difference to God whether we call Him Theo or Elohim or God. What does matter to Him is our dishonoring of His name through breaking His law of love. Christ doesn't say 'Why call ye Me Lord, Lord, and do not correctly pronounce my name?' What He does say is "Why call ye me Lord, Lord, and do not the things I say?"
I'm not saying you feel this way, I'm just warning you that there is an entire movement that is based on the correct pronunciation of the names Yahweh, and Iesous. While some of these brothers and sisters have a degree of spiritual understanding, their spiritual understanding of what is a "good name" is lacking.
When we read...:
Pro 22:1 A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, [and] loving favour rather than silver and gold.
...the holy spirit is not talking about the name Vinson, or Ieue or Alueim. It is speaking of loving our brothers and loving our God. That is what gives us all a "good name." That is what shows whether we have and know our true heavenly Father and His Son.
Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
We do not demonstrate our acquaintance with our heavenly parents by physically uttering the correct physical syllables. Here is how we demonstrate that we know God and His Son, and whether we have His name written in our foreheads.
Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
I will close with a couple of verses which give us the real clues we need to know and recognize those who carry the "name" of God with dignity. Even the word 'love,' Just like the word 'name,' is clearly defined for us so that we do not fail to know God's name and His Son's name, when we meet Them in our brothers, His sons, who have His name:
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Christ and His apostles make clear that John is speaking of Christ's commandments to us in Mat 5-7 and throughout the New Testament. He is definitely not speaking of His "carnal commandments" (Heb 7:12) to Moses.
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For [it is] evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
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Reply by GEORGE BABU NYATANGI on October 20, 2009 at 11:05am
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Reply by Lev/Christopher on October 20, 2009 at 1:03pm
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Reply by Rodney D Ready on November 2, 2009 at 6:45am
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Reply by Lev/Christopher on November 2, 2009 at 6:51am
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Reply by R. Keith Stoner on November 17, 2009 at 4:24pm
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Reply by Lev/Christopher on November 18, 2009 at 3:39am
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