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unusual belief system
Posted by Yaacov on December 24, 2008 at 6:43am in Forum
After having seen all the possible mutations of the different beliefs about the Elohim-head, I came across the following entries on another network.
"No one knows the Father's name, this is what Yehoshva said, but we all know YHWH name. When the Word of Elohim spoke creation sprang forth when the word of Elohim spoke to Moses he obeyed, when the Word of Elohim spoke to the Prophets they proclaimed. And the word was made flesh. YHWH was his name before he became flesh now his name is Yehoshva, they are one and the same. But only He knows the Father"s name. YHWH was not the Father he is the Word of Elohim the Father, bless you for asking
Thomas Cossette,"
My reply:
In Shemoth/Exodus 33:18-23 you have Abba YHWH appearing without showing his face to Moshe (If YHWH would have shown His face, Moshe would have died.
In Shophtim/Judges 13:3-20 you have Yahushua appearing to Shimson's parents. Shimson's dad thought that he was doomed to die because he thought he may have seen Abba YHWH face to face, but he didn't die because he had actually seen Yahushua.
So that contradicts your theory.
Now while Yahushua's second name may occasionally be YHWH, as in the Malach of YHWH, or the Master YHWH, that is His less frequently used name, whereas the Abba's Name is predominantly YHWH.
Thomas, from your comments I cannot tell, do you understand Yahushua to be a distinct Being from His Abba or not?
"Yea I do believe both YHWH and YEHOSHVA are exactly one and the same. Yehoshva is YHWH come in flesh. YHWH is not the Abba Yehoshva talks about. He said no one know Abba's name but him. and we All know the name YHWH. So the Father that is distinct is not the Word that spoke creation into existence he had YHWH do that then he took on flesh for himself in the person of Yehoshva. I just think you may be confused thinking YHWH is the Father the Abba Yehoshva speaks of he is not. The Word spoke to Moses in Exodus 33:18-23and the Word was YHWH and now it has taken on humanity in the person of Yehoshva
Again one has seen the Father except the Son no one, not Moses, not me, not you, not Isaiah, not Ezekiel, NO One but YHWH has seen the Father he saw him because he is of Him and YHWH's name is now Yehoshva ever since he came in flesh. You will learn this some day as all will.
Shalom
THomas Cossette"
Now, this belief system of his caught me off guard. Is there a flaw to it?
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Reply by Lev/Christopher on December 24, 2008 at 9:59am
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Reply by Lev/Christopher on December 26, 2008 at 7:16am
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Reply by Arius on January 24, 2009 at 6:40pm
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Reply by Lev/Christopher on January 25, 2009 at 2:23am
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Reply by Yaacov on January 25, 2009 at 5:33am
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Reply by Arius on January 25, 2009 at 4:38pm
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