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    The Ten Marks of a Flesh-Pleaser

    Posted by Lev/Christopher on December 21, 2008 at 10:22am
    in Forum

    by Richard Baxter

    The signs of a flesh-pleaser or sensualist are these:

    1. When a man in his desire to please his appetite, does not do it with a view to a higher end, that is to say to the preparing himself for the service of God; but does it only for the delight itself. (Of course no one does every action conciously with a view to the service of God. Nevertheless, the general manner or habit of a life spent in the service of God is absent for the flesh-pleaser.)

    2. When he looks more eagerly and industriously after the prosperity of his body than of his soul.

    3. When he will not refrain from his pleasures, when God forbids them, or when they hurt his soul, or when the necessities of his soul call him away from them. But he must have his delight whatever it costs him, and is so set upon it, that he cannot deny it to himself.

    4. When the pleasures of his flesh exceed his delights in God, and his holy word and ways, and the expectations of endless pleasure. And this not only in the passion, but in the estimation, choice, and action. When he had rather be at a play, or feast, or other entertainment, or getting good bargains or profits in the world, than to live in the life of faith and love, which would be a holy and heavenly way of living.

    5. When men set their minds to scheme and study to make provision for the pleasures of the flesh; and this is first and sweetest in their thoughts.

    6. When they had rather talk, or hear, or read of fleshly pleasures, than of spiritual and heavenly delights.

    7. When they love the company of merry sensualists, better than the communion of saints, in which they may be exercised in the praises of their Maker.

    8. When they consider that the best place to live and work is where they have the pleasure of the flesh. They would rather be where they have things easy, and lack nothing for the body, rather than where they have far better help and provision for the soul, though the flesh be pinched for it.

    9. When he will be more eager to spend money to please his flesh than to please God.

    10. When he will believe or like no doctrine but "easy-believism," and hate mortification as too strict "legalism." By these, and similar signs, sensuality may easily be known; indeed, by the main bent of the life.

    http://www.kwasizabantu.com/sermons/ten_marks_of_a_flesh.htm


    I can think of many others too. Will they change their way of living when poverty strikes the nation, loweing their standard of living in order to share what they have in their local congregations? Or will they continue to attach themselves to the supetr rich class who, with few exceptions (there are, of course, some righteous philanthropic rich people), have attained their positions by graft, or will the Ruach touch their hearts to fork out? We will see.

    Sadly, you are right about the carnality of believers across the entire spectrum of denominations. So I am not exactly surprised by the conversation by pastor's wives which you overheard. I don't think they have an idea how radical a change in the standard of living is going to result in the USA - if the $ collapses (whether in February as some predict or later) and is replaced by the Amero (the currency has been minted since 2007 and trillions have been shipped to China already), citizens probably won't get more than 2 cents on the $ for their savings - a reduction in standard of ~98%. And I would not at all be surprised if the € Euro doesn't meet the same fate.

    I believe this year may well be a major reality check and see the elimination of the middle class. And when the middle class is eradicated, this is always an index of dictatorship. Then a tiny super-rich élite will rule the impoverished masses.

    Yahs_Lamb said:
    If they survive what is to come upon this earth, I think many will perish cause they don't know how to live by simple means.
    Years ago, I attended a woman's convention, and we broke up in groups and in my group was several christian pastor's wives, and we was talking about survival, and these ladies was more concerned about if they would have air conditioning then they was their souls. I learned alot that day just by sitting back listening to them talk about what mainly concerned them, and as pastor's wives I was surprised that there was a lack of spirituality in them. These are the flesh pleasers.

    Lev said:
    I can think of many others too. Will they change their way of living when poverty strikes the nation, loweing their standard of living in order to share what they have in their local congregations? Or will they continue to attach themselves to the supetr rich class who, with few exceptions (there are, of course, some righteous philanthropic rich people), have attained their positions by graft, or will the Ruach touch their hearts to fork out? We will see.

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