There are many hidden libraries I would love to see unearthed or exposed to the public gaze, including the Vatican Library. Origen's original materials would for sure be interesting yet he is himself a couple of centuries removed from an even more authentic period of time. If the early Messianic assemblies were apostacising in John's day (as we know from the 7 assemblies of Asia Minor described in the Bopok of Revelation) then by the time Origen was born there must already have been a major departure from the truth. The Western Church was already anti-Hebraic and anti-Torah. So whilst a find or Origen's materials would be a great find for scholarship, would it take us back to the original faith of the New Testament believers? I wonder.

I would like to know whether Polycarp, Polycrates, Thraseas, Sagaris and the other early converts to True Christianity left any writings. Some of these oversaw churches in Euphesus, Smyrna and Asia Minor and kept the correct Passover date, despite strong influence from Rome to break all 'Jewish' ties.

Lev/Christopher said:

There are many hidden libraries I would love to see unearthed or exposed to the public gaze, including the Vatican Library. Origen's original materials would for sure be interesting yet he is himself a couple of centuries removed from an even more authentic period of time. If the early Messianic assemblies were apostacising in John's day (as we know from the 7 assemblies of Asia Minor described in the Bopok of Revelation) then by the time Origen was born there must already have been a major departure from the truth. The Western Church was already anti-Hebraic and anti-Torah. So whilst a find or Origen's materials would be a great find for scholarship, would it take us back to the original faith of the New Testament believers? I wonder.

I just mentioned Origen, in that he, under the direction and aid of the bishoprics in Asia and Africa put together the first, or original Christian library (Bible).

Yahweh will caused to be revealed what He wants to be revealed and when He wants it to be revealed. As things stand there is no evidence that Paul was ever excommunicated from the apostolic Messianic Assembly. There is evidence in 3 John, however, that maverick congregations such as that run by Diotrephes excommunicated apostles like John.

It is the testimony and revelation here that Paul was a true apostle of Yah'shua and it is really not something we wish to debate here. We work from the Protestant Canon and accept Paul as a true servant of Yahweh and of Yah'shua. Let Ebionites and other Paul-rejectors live their Christian lives out of the Scriptures minus Paul and see if the Ruach vindicates them.

Thomas, how can you long for an archeological discovery from the 1st Century (there is no Zero Century BTW) while having a preconceived universal negative notion about Shaul/Pallu? There's a very good possibility that unearthed libraries would further validate Shaul/Pallu.
Re: your re-imagining of the identity of Phygelus and Hermogenes-- LOL, the limb you're on is very high-- and cracking.

So - how many prayed for this? What happened when you prayed for this discovery? I am looking for the freedom of the truths that it will bring and the destruction of the delusions it will cause.

Our prayer is that Yahweh will sustain all Truth in His own way and bring forth what he will in His own time and season. He brought forth the Dead Sea Scrolls when I doubt anyone was praying for them and they validated the OT at a time when the OT was under heavy assault. Who knows what Yahweh will bring forth and when. I am frankly not anxious and am not about to join the panic prayers of those anxious to prop up a preconceived notion. Evidently Yahweh considers that we have what we need for the time being and to work with that. In the meantime, sally forth with the full unction of the Ruach haQodesh, showing the signs spoken of in Scripture. I for one am not about to lose any sleep over some lost MS libraries.

Shaul's writings, along with all the 66 books of the Bible were, despite the somewhat unqualified men who put together the canon itself (catholics or proto-catholics), chosen specifically by YHWH, His Spirit coming upon these men as they chose the canon. The various translations and interpretations and philosophies of translation and interpretation may have their flaws, but the canon itself was chosen by Elohim and not by men.


Lev/Christopher said:

Our prayer is that Yahweh will sustain all Truth in His own way and bring forth what he will in His own time and season. He brought forth the Dead Sea Scrolls when I doubt anyone was praying for them and they validated the OT at a time when the OT was under heavy assault. Who knows what Yahweh will bring forth and when. I am frankly not anxious and am not about to join the panic prayers of those anxious to prop up a preconceived notion. Evidently Yahweh considers that we have what we need for the time being and to work with that. In the meantime, sally forth with the full unction of the Ruach haQodesh, showing the signs spoken of in Scripture. I for one am not about to lose any sleep over some lost MS libraries.