Discussion with a Grace Only Person - NCCG.ORG Ning Network Archive 2008-10

It is interesting, Edward, to note that you are afraid of someone
posting something that disagrees with your position, to the point that
you will delete anything they say so that only your words stand. If you
can not prove someone wrong, you go and silence them to make sure that
only what you are teaching is being taught. That is what Obama is doing
right now, and Hitler, and Stalin, Mao, Che, and many others who
silenced others to make sure there was no dissent. So I will let
Scripture do the talking, and if you delete this, then you are cutting
our Scripture, and that says everything right there.

John 14

15If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16And I will pray the Father, and he
shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it
seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth
with you, and shall be in you.

John 15

5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth
forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6If a man abide not
in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather
them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7If ye abide in
me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall
be done unto you. 8Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much
fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10If ye keep my commandments,
ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fathers commandments,
and abide in his love. 11These things have I spoken unto you, that my
joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12This is my
commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13Greater
love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his
friends. 14Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what
his master doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I
have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. 16Ye have not chosen
me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and
bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye
shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 17These things I
command you, that ye love one another.

Matthew 5

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to
destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and
earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law,
till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these
least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least
in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the
same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with יהוה, and the Word
was יהוה. 2The same was in the beginning with יהוה. 3All things were
made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In
him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Hebrews 13

8Yeshua the Messiah the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

2 Timothy 3

14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned
them; 15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which
are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in
Yahushua the Messiah. 16All scripture is given by inspiration of יהוה,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of יהוה may be perfect,
throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Timothy 3

14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been
assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15And that from a
child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee
wise unto salvation through faith which is in Yeshua the Messiah. 16All
scripture is given by inspiration of יהוה, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of יהוה may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all
good works.

Leviticus 11

43Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make
yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby. 44For I
am יהוה your Elohim: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye
shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with
any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 45For I am
יהוה that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your Elohim:
ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. 46This is the law of the
beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the
waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth: 47To make a
difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast
that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.

2 Corinthians 6

14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with
unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what
concord hath the Messiah with Belial? or what part hath he that
believeth with an infidel? 16And what agreement hath the temple of יהוה
with idols? for ye are the temple of the living Elohim; as יהוה hath
said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their
Elohim, and they shall be my people. 17Wherefore come out from among
them, and be ye separate, saith יהוה, and touch not the unclean thing;
and I will receive you, 18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be
my sons and daughters, saith יהוה the Almighty.

2 Corinthians 7

1Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from
all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear
of יהוה.

Hebrews 12

1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside
every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run
with patience the race that is set before us, 2Looking unto Yahushua the
author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before
him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right
hand of the throne of יהוה. 3For consider him that endured such
contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint
in your minds.
4Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. 5And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto
you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of יהוה,
nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6For whom יהוה loveth he
chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7If ye endure
chastening, יהוה dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom
the father chasteneth not? 8But if ye be without chastisement, whereof
all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9Furthermore we
have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them
reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of
spirits, and live? 10For they verily for a few days chastened us after
their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of
his holiness. 11Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous,
but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of
righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. 12Wherefore lift
up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; 13And make straight
paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way;
but let it rather be healed. 14Follow peace with all men, and holiness,
without which no man shall see יהוה: 15Looking diligently lest any man
fail of the grace of יהוה; lest any root of bitterness springing up
trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; 16Lest there be any
fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold
his birthright. 17For ye know how that afterward, when he would have
inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of
repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
18For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with
fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19And the sound of a
trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated
that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20(For they could
not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the
mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: 21And so
terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
22But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living
Elohim, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23To the general assembly and assembly of the firstborn, which are
written in heaven, and to יהוה the Judge of all, and to the spirits of
just men made perfect, 24And to Yahushua the mediator of the new
covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things
than that of Abel. 25See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if
they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall
not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying,
Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27And this
word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are
shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be
shaken may remain. 28Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be
moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve יהוה acceptably with
reverence and godly fear: 29For our Elohim is a consuming fire.

John 8

54Yeshua answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your
Elohim: 55Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should
say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him,
and keep his saying. 56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and
he saw it, and was glad. 57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet
fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58Yahushua said unto them,
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59Then took
they up stones to cast at him: but Yeshua hid himself, and went out of
the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

James 2

8If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9But if ye have respect
to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as
transgressors. 10For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend
in one point, he is guilty of all. 11For he that said, Do not commit
adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if
thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12So speak ye,
and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. 13For he
shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy
rejoiceth against judgment.
14What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And
one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the
body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is
dead, being alone. 18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have
works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my
faith by my works. 19Thou believest that there is one Elohim; thou doest
well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20But wilt thou know, O
vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21Was not Abraham our father
justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith
made perfect? 23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham
believed יהוה, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was
called the Friend of יהוה. 24Ye see then how that by works a man is
justified, and not by faith only. 25Likewise also was not Rahab the
harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had
sent them out another way? 26For as the body without the spirit is
dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1 John 1

5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you,
that יהוה is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6If we say that we
have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the
truth: 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have
fellowship one with another, and the blood of Yeshua the Messiah his Son
cleanseth us from all sin.
8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins,
he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from
all unrighteousness. 10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a
liar, and his word is not in us.

1 John 2

sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4He that
saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the
truth is not in him. 5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the
love of יהוה perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6He that
saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he
walked.
7Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the
word which ye have heard from the beginning. 8Again, a new commandment I
write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the
darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. 9He that saith he is
in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none
occasion of stumbling in him. 11But he that hateth his brother is in
darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth,
because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
12I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his names sake.
13I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the
beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the
wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the
Father. 14I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him
that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because
ye are strong, and the word of יהוה abideth in you, and ye have overcome
the wicked one. 15Love not the world, neither the things that are in
the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in
him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust
of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the
world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that
doeth the will of יהוה abideth for ever.
18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antimessiah shall come, even
now are there many antimessiahs; whereby we know that it is the last
time. 24Yeey went out from us, but teey were not of us; for if they had
been of us, teey would no doubt have continued with us: but teey went
out, that teey might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21I have
not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know
it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22Who is a liar but he that denieth
that Yeshua is the Messiah? He is antimessiah, that denieth the Father
and the Son. 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24Let that
therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that
which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also
shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 25And this is the promise
that he hath promised us, even eternal life. 26Yeese things have I
written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27But tee anointing
which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any
man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and
is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide
in him.
28And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at
his coming. 29If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one
that doeth righteousness is born of him.

Revelation 3

14And unto the angel of the assembly of the Laodiceans write; Yeese things
saith the amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the
creation of יהוה; 15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor
hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm,
and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17Because
thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of
nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and
poor, and blind, and naked: 18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in
the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest
be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and
anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 24As many as I
love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20Behold, I
stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the
door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21To
him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I
also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22He that
hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the assemblies.

Romans 8

14And unto the angel of the assembly of the Laodiceans write; Yeese things saith the amen, the faithful and true witness, the
beginning of the creation of יהוה; 15I know thy works, that thou art
neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because
thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my
mouth. 17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and
have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and
miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18I counsel thee to buy of me
gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment,
that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not
appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 24As
many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with
me. 21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
assemblies.

Romans 11

11I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? By no means: but rather through their fall
salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the
diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their
fulness? 13For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of
the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: 14If by any means I may provoke to
emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. 15For if
the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall
the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16For if the
firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so
are the branches. 17And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou,
being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them
partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18Boast not against
the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but tee
root teee. 24Yeou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I
might be graffed in. 20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off,
and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21For if יהוה
spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of יהוה: on them which
fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his
goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23And they also, if they
abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for יהוה is able to
graff them in again. 24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which
is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive
tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be
graffed into their own olive tree? 25For I would not, brethren, that ye
should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own
conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the
fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26And so all Israel shall be saved:
as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall
turn away wickedness from Jacob: 27For this is my covenant unto them,
when I shall take away their sins. 28As concerning the glad tidings,
they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are
beloved for the fathers sakes. 29For the gifts and calling of יהוה are
without repentance. 30For as ye in times past have not believed יהוה,
yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31Even so have these
also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain
mercy. 32For יהוה hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might
have mercy upon all.
33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of יהוה! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways
past finding out! 34For who hath known the mind of יהוה? or who hath
been his counsellor? 35Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be
recompensed unto him again? 36For of him, and through him, and to him,
are all things: to whom be glory for ever.

1 Corinthians 14

33For Elohim is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all
assemblies of the saints.

Edward King, aka Jacob, aka Bro Jake of Alberta Canada wrote:

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is
the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9)

What many today fail to understand is that it is not our faith that saves us. It is not our grace that saves us either. Our
knowledge doesn't give us any advantage until we have what the HOLY
BIBLE calls knowledge of the LORD. All of the faith and
all of the grace that we have, that is truly faith and truly

grace, is all from the FAITHFUL ONE alone. It is His gift to us.
Surely to all are given a measure of faith and to all are given
a measure of grace but without the FAITHFUL ONE we would all
still have nothing. Now this knowledge is so vitally important that I
would even go so far as to say that it is essential to our salvation in
the LORD! What we do with this faith and what we do with this
grace that GOD has granted us is our own personal choice until it runs
out. Now the Word says that Esau also sought repentence with tears and
that he could not find it. Esau ran out of grace. There was nothing left
in him. He was as good as dead for he found no place of repentance.
Without faith or grace repentance is impossible. This scripture is a
serious admonition.

For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing,
he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought
it carefully with tears (Hebrews 12:17)

Well, it can be said that all religions require both faith and grace, considering that without HIS grace we would all be wiped off the face of the earth;
but GOD is good and GOD is longsuffering. HE alone is the FAITHFUL

ONE because all our faith comes from HIM. HE alone is the true
source of all our faith; but oh, how some of us would misplace our
faith despite the fact that it all came from GOD! I'm not making this up. It's all in
HIS WORD imparted to us that we might not only have faith but also that
we might KNOW HIM. HIS GRACE is that BLOOD that He shed which
paved the way to HIS THRONE that we might approach it boldly and arrive
at repentence even with fear and trembling. HE did this in FAITH that we
might live and have life more abundantly. He did this that we might KNOW
HIM. Yea, HE is a very merciful GOD!

Although we are all granted both faith and grace that we might boldly approach
HIS THRONE not all exercise this option. The works of our faith and the
works we do by HIS GRACE are only a means to an end. HE is the Author
and Finisher of our faith which HE alone granted us. They are what GOD
has given us that we might ARRIVE at a specific place in HIM that we
might KNOW HIM. . . That we might taste and see that HE is verily
GOD and KNOW that GOD is good. GOD is not just some concept
generated by ink and paper in our minds. GOD is REAL! GOD is a Spirit
and they that worship HIM must worship HIM in spirit and in truth! NO
one can arrive at the KNOWLEDGE of GOD without HIS
faith or without HIS grace; but the reason we are granted this faith and
this grace in the first place is that we might KNOW HIM. One does not
just get the HOLY GHOST and sit on their hands! If they have knowledge
of the LORD they have a burden. They have a responsibility to the KNOWLEDGE

GOD has given them! This KNOWLEDGE is called KNOWLEDGE
of the LORD. This is not "head knowledge"... This is a spiritual

experience. Friend, if you are without KNOWLEDGE of the
LORD then you simply do not know GOD. You still need to pray on
through to the other side. The knowledge that you may think you have is
only cerebral. It is superficial... It is like the knowledge one might
glean from reading a good work of fiction. You must get past that veil!
The truth must be revealed to you in a living experience so that your
faith is more than a work of fiction! All the rote memorization in the
world cannot save you or anyone. You must EXPERIENCE a genuine, ACT of
GOD in you! This is that hope of glory! Only then can you have KNOWLEDGE

of GOD. Now Adam did not know Eve until they UNITED.
This is that MYSTERY that was first imparted unto us that we might also
KNOW GOD in spirit and in truth.

Faith without works is dead; but it is the Father Who doeth the works! Yes,
we have faith, but our faith alone will never be enough to save anyone.
Many today have this dead religious attitude that they were saved
through their own faith as if this were enough to save them. Yes, there
is grace but it is that grace that is given to us that we might approach
GOD faithfully! Oh, ye of little faith! I weep for you! Remember the
father who said unto the FATHER, "Lord, I believe, help thou my
unbelief!" We must return our little faith to the Source of all FAITH.
This is the word that my LORD has given me to share with you THIS DAY
and I already know that most of you are just not getting it because you
are too busy judging the messenger to discern the message. I will say it
anyway: It is much like priming a pump: Only a cup of water is required
to prime that pump but once it takes a flow is generated that can move
hundreds of thousands of gallons! At some point we must return our faith
unto the FAITHFUL ONE. Today so many are misplacing their faith because
they simply do not know GOD. So many would so easily forget that GOD is
the source of everything that is. There is a reason we were all granted
a measure of faith. There is a reason we were all granted a measure of
grace. There is no grace for them that are in the grave! The dead know
nothing! I see dead people all the time! THINK ABOUT IT! Either they
have died to sin and are gone back to JESUS, or they have died in their
sin and await the fearful resurrection of shame and everlasting
contempt. What is the reason... What is the purpose to this grace
whereby we are saved through faith in the FAITHFUL ONE? In a single
word: KNOWLEDGE

You cannot receive Knowledge of the LORD without Union in JESUS. You cannot have that experience until you truly connect with GOD
in spirit and in truth. You cannot say you "know" JESUS unless you have
joined with Him in the Spirit. Only then, can you even begin to conceive
of the ONENESS of the ALMIGHTY GOD. The goal of the GOSPEL is UNION in
JESUS and JESUS is that FAITHFUL ONE. There is no other. Without UNION
in JESUS it is impossible to know GOD. My friend, you
could memorize the entire BIBLE and not know GOD. Taste and SEE that the
LORD is GOOD. Long ago, a man once told others to go their way because,
he said, that I had knowledge. Either GOD revealed this to him or the
enemy feared that I would impart this knowledge to some and they just
might "get it". Yes, I have knowledge! Praise GOD, I have knowledge. I'm
not alone. There are others who also have this knowledge. Do you have
this knowledge? I so wish and it my deepest desire that all who read
this message gain this knowledge. Adam knew his wife and JESUS is the
LORD. This is that MYSTERY concerning Christ and the Church!

May GOD reveal it to you and may GOD bless you in the knowledge
of FULL BIBLE TRUTH.

Once a person obeys the Gospel of GOD's grace then grace comes alive in
that person's life and those who worship GOD in spirit and in truth have
an advocate, Christ Jesus, the Messiah and express Person and image of
the only wise GOD. The Blood of the Lamb, even JESUS, GOD very GOD, shed
upon that cross, provided the grace whereby a man must be saved. Before
that time all live under the law and all are condemned under the law;
for the law of sin and death saved no one. This is the Old Covenant...
The Law of Sin and Death... But by the mercy and grace of the FAITHFUL
ONE that one shall have a New Covenant and that person no longer lives
under the law, having obeyed the Gospel and the works that one shall do
are not that person's own works; but the Father, He doeth the works
because the New Law is written in that person's heart... Even the
circumcision of the New Covenant.
1 John 5

1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every
one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God,
and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his
commandments are not grievous.
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the
victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus
is the Son of God?
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by
water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth
witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word,
and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the
water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for
this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he
that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not
the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and
this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God
hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the
Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may
believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any
thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we
have the petitions that we desired of him.
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he
shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death.
There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is
begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in
wickedness.
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an
understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that
is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and
eternal life.
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2 John 1

1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the
truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;
2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for
ever.
3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the
Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as
we have received a commandment from the Father.
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the
commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk
in it.
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that
Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Comment by Scott Ledbetter on February 7, 2010 at 12:53pm: My response to Edward King aka Bro Jake aka Jacob

Again, all you can do is to delete posts that show the error in your teaching. You close your posts to others posts because you do not want anyone to know that you are teaching falsehoods. You copy my own words and claim them as your own. You delete my posts to make sure that no one will listen to me. You boot me off of your groups because you do not want others to know the truth. You do not want people to know the Full Bible truth, but want only what you teach as the truth. I do not need to create multiple accounts so that I can represent myself as multiple people.

I am not a Judiazer, for if I was, I would be teaching the Talmud. The Talmud is just as Babylon as the Grace Only teaching is, and both are condemned in Colossians 2:

4And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. 5For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in the Messiah. 6As ye have therefore received the Messiah Yahushua the Master, so walk ye in him: 7Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after the Messiah. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the might in bodily form. 10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of the Messiah: 12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of יהוה, who hath raised him from the dead.
13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body of the Messiah. 18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of Elohim. 20Wherefore if ye be dead with the Messiah from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21(Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22Which all are to perish with the using;)after the commandments and doctrines of men? 23Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

All of the Law of YHVH can be broken down into two categories - service to YHVH and service to your fellow man. It does not matter what man will teach, even if it has Scripture in it, for even HaSatan quoted Scripture while tempting Yeshua. Even the servants of HaSatan can make themselves appear to be messengers of light. If what you teach contradicts anything is Scripture, which your teaching does and I have given multiple examples of, then it is false teaching.

The more you act this way, the more others can see right through you and see how that you are not acting like Yeshua at all. HaSatan rejoices in himself, and his ways have a show of humility, but his ways are the ways that lead to destruction. I love you and pray for you and your family daily, knowing that the time is short.

Edward King said:

Today I rejoice in my knowledge; for I am spared from the doctrines of the deceivers, the fables of the judaizers, and my accusers are always put to bay. I shall not give heed to the seducing doctrines and commandments of men. Yet my knowledge is not my own and I am not the source of my faith, nor am I the source of my Salvation. Friend, this is so very important for every blood-bought, born-again believer to understand: If you know JESUS, you can't take any credit for any good thing in your life! No, you must give GOD the glory always. If you know JESUS, you are a witness to all His good works and you realize that all (not just "some") good things come from GOD! If you know JESUS, you will also know that there is no good thing in the flesh and you will understand that in the eyes of the fleshly-minded and worldly that you will always appear the hypocrite and the enemy because the world cannot discern the things of GOD and neither can it know them. REJOICE! You have something the world doesn't!

What a tremendous relief it is when the fullness of this knowledge finally comes into focus for the newly born! Those things that you once valued before you came to know Christ are become as trash, garbage, dung to you. The things that were once so very important to you are now become a vanity under the sun. Now your joy is in JESUS and all things in you are subject unto Him. No longer are you concerned for those old things that were ready to perish with the using... No longer are you subject to the ordinances of dietary laws and the failed religion of the Old Covenant. Behold! All things are made new and you are made a new creature in Christ! All things become lawful for you because the law of love is written in your heart! You have no desire to transgress the law because you are already become dead to the law of sin and death. Now you live!

How long will this last? Some of you might ask. Well, it can last for as long as your heart is toward GOD and for as long as you keep your vessel full. It diminishes when the world gets you down. Now that is the problem. Doubtlessly, you have loved ones with whom you wish to share this experience. You want everyone to have this experience. You want them to put away all the striving and struggling, all the tears, misery, and bondage, and be set free in the Liberty of Love… And this is the enemy’s queue. This is where the world can take you down if you are not careful. For them that live in the Body of Christ all things are lawful, but they would do well not to be brought under the power of any; for in so doing, they risk falling back to the things of the flesh and of the world and becoming victims of that Mystery of Iniquity which the scriptures have forewarned the true worshipers of the Living GOD. (Lawlessness). In Christ, there is no lawlessness; but that does not mean that you will not be taken before magistrates. In Christ, there is no law but the law of Liberty, even the law of Love. And what is the law of Liberty and the law of Love if this is not GOD’s own Moral Law? When Christ Jesus was questioned concerning the greatest commandment of all, he told them:

The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. (Mark 12:29-31)

Now notice:

And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question. (Mark 12:32-34)

Friend, I submit to you that this is the Law of Love and the Law of Liberty and I declare to you this day, that this is also GOD’s Moral Law: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” (John 3:16-21)

Again, in another place, it is written:

Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:35-40)

All the law and the prophets? Is this what JESUS said? AMEN. JESUS said it. So why are so many today continually being placed back under the yoke of the Law of Sin and Death, subjugated to the laws and commandments of men, and the old ordinances of a dead covenant (touch not, taste not, handle not) that saved no one? A: Because the enemy desires to rob them of their Liberty in Christ Jesus. Before long, the peace and joy the believer once held in Liberty and Love has all but vanished, because they were brought back under the law of Sin and Death, which saved no one. The irony of this great tragedy is that these also become lawless, with hearts full of iniquity.

Just as many of the Pharisees of old became vain in their imaginations, displaying great airs of religiosity and self-rightness, so also are those that proclaim that we are saved by the dead works of the flesh. Outwardly, they appear righteous and holy; but inwardly, their hearts are dark and hateful. There is no ‘peace that passes understanding’ found in them because they have forgotten GOD’s Moral Law. They would think that GOD’s Moral Law is comprised of dark forebodings and settings at nought but they have forgotten that GOD’s Moral Law is the LAW of LOVE. Inwardly, they are full of dead men’s bones; for if they had known GOD’s Moral Law, they would have also known the value of mercy and they would know why JESUS said: But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Matthew 9:13) See also: (Matt 12:7)

Brothers and sisters, friends and readers, and all those who seek after the wisdom of GOD’s Grace: Please understand that you cannot take credit for anything that GOD has given you — no, not the smallest thing. You cannot save yourself from this untoward generation without GOD’s intervention, so pray for it whenever the world comes against you. Give GOD the glory in all that you do and say. Avoid the self-congratulatory “back patters” of this world and look to GOD. This is the Wisdom of GOD’s mercy and grace that we should look to GOD in all that we say, all that we think, and all that we do. If we should sacrifice, let us freely offer up the sacrifices of praise; for of our selves we can do nothing.

Resist not the Holy Ghost; but let the Father do the works in you that your works are not self-congratulatory or dead, like the works of those self-right performers who pride themselves in will worship. Rather let your works come alive in mercy and grace that your good works are not evil spoken of, seeing that all good works are received from above, by your Father which is in heaven. Choose Liberty. Wherefore, if you are Christ’s you do not live under the law, neither to you live above the law, nor do you live outside of the law, through the law, or around the law! Rather, if you are indeed the LORD’s very own, you live lawfully and you abide in the Law of Love; for the Law of Love and Liberty, that you share in Christ Jesus, is written in your heart wherefore you are called to establish the law. You are not your own. You were bought with a price. Your works are not your own either, if you are truly the LORD’s, for all that you are and all that you do is all the property of the Almighty One.

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. (Romans 13:8)

May JESUS, the only wise GOD, bless you in the knowledge of full Bible truth.

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