Critique of
Are you
a current visitor
Pages
which may address some questions you may have are linked below: [What follows is a small article written by nccg_concern
and featuring in his “Are you a current member of NCCG”
link. Nccg_concern’s writing is in black, and mine in
green,
In this page, two things are being stressed by nccg_concern: That C.C. Warren is, according to the author, an extremely devious manipulator and that Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) does not exist. If C.C. Warren is a mind-controlling manipulator, why would he expose another set of mind-controllers? Wouldn’t it be in his best interest if they never existed? If one considers this and expands it, it becomes a little more apparent why nccg_concern has been so eager to pull down any SRA allegations.
(Updated
July 28, 2006) [OK, first of all, this page was not
updated on July 28th. It appeared online around the 13th-14th
of August. Now, what you’re about to read disgusted me so much that I found
myself honestly in awe as to this author’s intentions. In the rest of the
website, I found criticism as to the practices of NCCG,
how horrible it is and all, and it seemed to me
not-so-easy to prove that this nccg_concern guy
actually hates C.C. Warren. It could be that nccg_concern
only wanted to destroy someone else’s church, it could be that he had nothing
better to do, it could be anything. After reading the following, I’m more and
more convinced of his agenda. It’s odd how he would make so much work in item
#5 of the index page to prove that C.C. Warren character-assassinates the
people he doesn’t like. After reading the following, I really don’t see why
people with glass houses throw the biggest stones. What impressed me most is in
bold.] Hey
NCCG Men: All
of the information above is backed up by high-integrity source material that
would stand up to scrutiny, even in court, but I cannot release most of this
source material publically at this time due to
privacy concerns. [Yeah yeah…] Lastly,
I have not made this web site because I have nothing better to do. Think about
it. [I’m sure that if he had something better to do, he would do it. I am nonetheless asking myself why did nccg_concern make this website. I am actually. I’m asking myself why did nccg_concern make this
website? I’m trying to consider the possibility that he
is honestly concerned. OK, let’s say he is… wouldn’t he have revealed his
identity like all the other people who criticised NCCG?
(none of them got murdered, by the way). Wouldn’t he
have made a thorough research and not just wash? Wouldn’t he be honest about
his facts and present them? For instance, in the Overview section where he relates
the stages of “indoctrination”, it is proved by facts that these steps do not
actually apply to any person associated with the group. I think the possibility
that nccg_concern is honestly concerned is a
far-fetched one, as much as he would like this to be shoved down my throat. It
seems to me, rather, that he plainly and simply hates C.C. Warren’s guts. I
mean, I converted one of his writings on prophecy to an MS Word document and it
took up 30 pages (Hypergraphia? Maybe an attempt to
hypnotise us? It happens, you know). Obviously, no one would bother so much if
they had nothing better to do, that’s understandable. But
because they HATE? Isn’t that at the very least BIASED? I can tell you that this new article disgusted me. Hating, accusing,
dancing on another person’s grave, all that for what?] Critique of nccg_concern’s
reply to a “false prophecy and other false statements” Nccg_concern’s links What follows is a list of links that
nccg_concern has in his website which focus primarily
on the existence or non-existence of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA), and
secondarily on MPD/DID and the Theophostic
ministry. All these links about SRA are found
together in the Skeptic’s
Dictionary entry for SRA as “further reading”. Coincidence?
It seems highly likely that all the research the author did was to do a search
in the Skeptic’s Dictionary on “satanic ritual
abuse”, look at the links gathered there and post some of them as his own
investigation product here. Specifically, items #1, #5 and #6 are directly from
the “further reading” list and items #2 and #3 are links featured at the bottom
of webpage #1. The latter is a “Religious Tolerance” website which is downright
against the belief that SRA exists. Even if this wasn’t a product of a Skeptic’s Dictionary search, half of the links appear on
the first page of Google when you are looking for “satanic ritual abuse”. It’s
really obvious and quite probable that the author didn’t go far out of his way
to dig up this information. Judging from this, one can easily imagine
what sort of “in-depth research” nccg_concern has
done in other areas also, like the NCCG main website
or NCCG in general. Another matter is, are the links
found in such a website as the Skeptic’s Dictionary
(even this title indicates how biased the source is) enough to prove a point
and/or to inform the public?] Links to other sites: SRA
articles: The Hard Facts About
Satanic Ritual Abuse Satanic Ritual Abuse - - A 1992 FBI
Report For the sake of balance, this is a
list of links which strongly indicate that SRA does exist:
of the nccg_concern website?
Chris treats single or divorcing women very differently than he does you.
NCCG is an organization with two radically different
sides. [And this is when it hits the fan:]
Chris uses Yahoo Chat and MSN Messenger to communicate with women who originally
came to him for spiritual guidance. Over a period of time ranging from a few
months to years, he destroys them
psychologically, using well-known psychological manipulation tactics. These
tactics include (but are not limited to) unpredictable
reward and punishment, extreme obedience demonstrations, confession of deepest
secrets, hypnosis/dissociative mental states,
induction of Multiple Personality Disorder, induction of dissociative
disorders, and induction of False Recovered Memories (potentially of Satanic
Ritual Abuse). He also lies to the women extensively during this process. An
extreme degree of control is eventually achieved over the women through the use
of these techniques, and their ability to think critically is suppressed. He manages the brainwashing of the women
individually, using psychological manipulation tactics that are most
effective on the particular woman. Additionally, they are groomed for sexual contact within the context of him and his polygamic wives in Hillringsberg.
[Excuse me, DESTROYS women? Now that’s a new one. First time that this notion appears in this website. Is this
the author’s own opinion, or did someone came and told him they were destroyed?
My next question: how does someone get unpredictably punished through MSN
Messenger? And why don’t they leave if they feel punished? Oh wait, right…
because he has destroyed them psychologically. But isn’t the punishment the WAY
he did that? What are the extreme obedience demonstrations? Does he make them
pray 3 times a day? Could we have a testimony of what DOES rather than vague and general accusation? Because
to a critical reader, that does not avail much.]
The techniques he is using are not new, and their use can only be deliberate.
When Chris is successful, the result is
women who are brainwashed, controllable, financially exploitable, and
psychologically dependent upon him. Their ability to think clearly or
deeply is damaged, and they suffer from
delusions and paranoia. [So, there are women out
there who have been successfully brainwashed and turned into poor little
dependant creatures with and iron ball chained on their leg with the letters “NCCG” on it. Hmm… For real? I mean, I don’t doubt that anything is possible,
but just because anything is possible, are people to be buried alive because
there is a chance they’re serial killers? Because this is chances we’re talking
about. There is no proof, not even glimpses of proof (like relating a specific
event without names mentioned) to back all that up. It’s not a question really
of what one would like to believe, because that is so easily manipulated. It’s
more of a question of truth. Is C.C. Warren really that person? Because, if
he’s not, the nccg_concern is doing a horrible job at
informing the public and more or less is destroying another man’s life. Anonymously, of course.]
He is doing this to women (age 18 - 40++) in an ongoing effort to get women to
move to Hillringsberg and live in a sexually active polygamic relationship. [I know people who go out in bars at nights on an ongoing effort to get women to come with them at their house and develop a sexually active relationship, with a different woman each week.] The relationships are based upon
the psychological unconditional surrender of the women to him through the use
of undue influence as described earlier, and probably should not be considered
consensual for this reason. [These men buy the women drinks (suggesting financial dependency and also in an effort to bend the resistances), and tell lies like “you are the prettiest girl in the room”. This, in my book, is undue influence.] The final moving to Hillringsberg
actually does not happen in a number of cases, despite the brainwashing having
been mostly successful; real-life has had a way of interfering with many of the
plans made to-date. He spends a lot of time in internet chat psychologically
destroying women in this way, and gets limited return on his investment due to
a number of the plans falling through in the end (or being delayed for
indefinite periods of time). [I have one word to say
to this: TYPICAL. Please read the article “Hard Facts about SRA” and you will
see the parallelism: First I tell you something to make you panic, then I give
you hope: don’t worry, it’s either not happening at all or happens to very few
people. The result has nothing to do with you being convinced about how many
people this happens to, but about you being more or less mini-brainwashed to
believe me that it’s HAPPENING or that it’s NOT happening. More
on this on the analysis of the characters of nccg_concern and the deprogrammers.
Typical technique among journalists, lawyers and people who like to brainwash
in general. Just look at the news, and you will
understand.]
Women of child-bearing age are, and will
be, having his children, but the trend so far has been for Chris' name to
not appear as the father on the child's birth certificate. The father's name is
left blank. This is a known practice among abusive polygamic
groups. [And here’s the tragedy again.]
Chris goes out of his way to not allow men like you, who read the www.nccg.org
web site and participate in the message boards, to know what he is doing to
these women. [At this point, I would like to ask nccg_concern to give us all information about every single date he has had in his life, with who, what “tricks” he used and if it was successful or not.] He pretends that the predatory and destructive behavior with women are
personal family matters and will not address them to you. In some cases, you
will not even be aware of the women's membership in NCCG
because they use different message boards than you do, and may pass in and out
of the ones that you do use using different accounts. [Excuse
me, but why must C.C. Warren give every detail about his marital/sexual life to
the members of the NCCG Cyber Community? If he denies
to do so, is he a perverted polygamous monster? I’d
like you to consider this: suppose you’re married, and you have caught yourself
flirting with someone. Are you supposed to report this to your colleagues at
work? Well, according to nccg_concern, if that is the
case and you don’t report it, then you “go out of your way to not allow these
men at work to know what you’re doing with your female acquaintances”. It can
get even spicier: Imagine that someone in your office starts yelling that you
psychologically abuse every woman you know but no one has ever found out
because you “go out of your way to not allow your colleagues to find out”. I
suggest nccg_concern should give this some thinking,
as he is the one who will never be at the receiving end of such scrutiny as his
identity is never revealed.]
The long, rambling discussions in his weekly sermons, as well as the writing
all over the NCCG web site, are part of a confusing
and all-encompassing doctrine that assists with brainwashing the women,
combined with what appears to be Chris' lifelong hypergraphia. If a man finds himself hooked
on NCCG, it is possible that it may have been
assisted by the man's suggestibility being increased due to the writing
invoking a hypnotic state (yes, this happens). [!!!!
What?! In other words: Don’t read a
lot, don’t work your way through lengthy articles, or you’ll get hypnotised!
After all the polygamy paranoia, this is so ridiculous that makes me wonder if
it’s the same person who does all the complicated psychoanalysing that writes
this nonsense. But you know, this happens too.]
Chris has demonstrated traits consistent with being a pathological liar and psychopathy, such as those seen in http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/cprofile.htm . [Always according to Nccg Concern, Ph.D.]
Unfortunately, the information I have stated above would be difficult for you,
as a man, to independently verify. Successfully
impersonating a woman for the required period of time is a challenge, and you would need to be able to
emulate a woman going through various stages of psychological influence and
controllability. Men with no applied background in the psychology associated
with undue influence may not be able to act the part well enough. [!! The author is suggesting that if you have nothing
better to do, you should go and pretend to be a woman to a cult leader, pretend
to fall for him and let him fall for you and supposedly brainwash you so that
in the end you can find the truth about him and what’s he’s doing in his bed.]
Pages about this site or this site's
author:
Likely email
contact from "Z" - starting July 18, 2006
Satanic Ritual Abuse
A note to survivors of Satanic/Sadistic Ritual
Abuse
Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) & Dissociative Identity
Disorder (DID)
A Christian Journalist's report on Theophostic
Prayer Ministry
Chris wrote to Gustav Sjoholm that he wanted to sue
me, but I don't care.
Here is one example why.
[The “example”
is from the Rick Ross news webpage. Not exactly what I would call unbiased.]
[Both of them
are 14 years old. The first one is from a magazine.]
[(!) Overall conclusion according to nccg_concern: Being hypnotised by reading a lot of
material is much more likely than the existence of Satanic Ritual Abuse.]