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False information about me by Christopher Warren |
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prophecy shown to the right is 100% false. [As the one who had the prophecy, I don't think this has been sufficiently demonstrated.] Please note that this supposed prophecy is written in the present tense: IE: "They are writing", and these "profiles" are supposed to appear on the internet "in the near future".[We have reasonable belief to believe SOMEONE is writing profiles, although the details are confidential right now.] First of all, I will make this point clear. THERE IS NO MYSTERIOUS "THEY" WHO ARE INVESTIGATING NCCG FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES NCCG MIGHT CONSIDER HOSTILE. THERE IS JUST ME. [Inspite of the fact to know this requires omniscience on Concern's part -- how does he know no one else is researching us?] Additionally, as stated elsewhere on this web site, the investigation into NCCG and the creation of this web site has primarily been a "one-man operation". Me [But this does not preclude other people from researching -- Concern thinks too highly of himself.] If any other people existed who were doing this, I see no chance whatsoever that such a person would not have become aware of my research and contacted me so that we could compare source material and notes. [A number of reasons . . . they might wish to make this a "one man operation" just as much as Concern or they might find Concern's premises faulty.] My web site is well placed enough in the search engines that anyone seriously researching NCCG would be able to find my web site and get my contact information. My web site is even linked in one of the NCCG message boards itself. Furthermore, the timing of the kinds of comments made about me indicate that my research and web site activities were the EXCLUSIVE trigger for this particular conspiracy/paranoia theory for NCCG leadership. This conspiracy theory has repeatedly referred to SPECIFIC activities done by ME as being done by some nonspecific group of people, such as:
and even falsely named other individuals who supposedly are a part of a group of people who are cooperating with me to "persecute" NCCG such as:
In other recent posts, I and people who are supposedly "employed" by me are the only people who have been specifically accused of:
and it has been insinuated that I also
The correct things which were stated about my research methods were that:
It is important to note that this "prophecy" contains references about "They" that incorporate the identical accusations and observations which were made exclusively about ME in the past, such as the ones above. These past accusations reference MY OWN SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES as having been done by some mysterious plurality [It still doesn't mean the prophecy is about you -- note, Warren said "PROBABLY at Concern's site"]. To summarize this point, the statement "They are writing detailed profiles on each and every member of MLT/NCCG based on what they can cull from the website, the posts here, sermons and email/IMs that they have been hacking into" can only refer to ME. Any other "They" is just a fantasy conspiracy theory unintentionally triggered by my research activities and my web site.[Ah, but then you are so fairly certain that its just you . . . as the man who had the dream, I can state within the dream content itself, I received no indication it was you.] The next points are: The material referenced by Christopher Warren as "email/IMs that they have been hacking into", is fantasy and does not exist. During the time frame that I was supposed to be writing these detailed profiles, and for a long while beforehand, I was not developing any material for this nccg_concern web site. The person I live with did not note me spending significant amounts of time at my PC writing large documents (such as would be required for the writing of "detailed profiles"). My handwriting is too poor and slow to be able to do this kind of writing without a PC. [Well, if it helps, in my dream, it was written/typed on computer paper.] I am not in the process of writing detailed profiles about NCCG members, or even profiles about Christopher Warren himself, and have not been at any time. I also have no future plans to do so. Furthermore, I have a policy within my NCCG investigation of not specifying much about the members themselves [aside from blurbing my last name on your "Chad" e-mail page and my full name on this page], with the exception of Christopher Warren. This is because NCCG's history suggests to me that the only permanent member of NCCG is, in fact, Christopher Warren himself [I've got pictures of my baptism -- and I've been hanging around for quite a few years so I guess that makes at least two "permanent" members.]. I do not wish to potentially hinder the recovery of any NCCG members who leave the group by allowing identifiable documentation of their cult involvement to effectively be archived (www.archive.org) on the internet. I have also not planned to identify any individuals by their roles within NCCG, such as "cult propagandist" [No, but you've possibly irreparably ruined my reputation by posting something referring to me as a "polygamist"]. In summary, there is no "they" researching NCCG, it is just me, and this prophecy about my writing plans and activities, both present and future, is a fantasy or "false prophecy" as it would be defined by the Bible. [But then again, we never said it was about your "future activities" -- it has yet to be fulfilled.] |
This is an excerpt from a post Christopher Warren made on nccgcybercommunity which contains a false prophecy about me.
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The statements made about the circumstances surrounding the translation of one of the pages of my web site
into Swedish are false. This translation was done by a personal friend who did not receive compensation for the translation. [Note the word "seems" (its the second word in the post) and "expense" -- it SEEMS you went to great expense. Likewise, "expense" isn't neccessarily monetary. TIME can be considered an expense.] There was no expense involved with accomplishing this translation. The amount of "trouble" experienced by me regarding the completion of the translation was minimal. The claim that I initiated contact with the local newspaper in an effort to "stir them up", or for any other reason, is false. I do not have a background that is characterized by "slick propaganda, media hype and spin". [You do exercise "undue influence" (as you call it) by presenting the information in a way that makes us seem like hysterical religious schizoids -- this is demonstrated by putting your comments before the original source material -- that way, when people read our posts, they'll automatically read them through the filter you set up. Clever, eh?] When he references my "ilk", this has in other posts referred to Rick Ross and exit counseling professionals who are supposedly assisting my research in some way. This concept of ongoing help or an anti-NCCG team being formed between me and Rick Ross, or any other professional exit counselor, is fantasy. [But Ross allows you to use his forum as stomping grounds.] Christopher Warren makes statements in this post where he appears to endeavor to create the impression that he understands why I am researching NCCG, and concludes that I am demonstrating pathological behavior. In reality, Christopher Warren is very clearly unaware of the reasons I am researching NCCG, and spends a lot of time in this post describing my characteristics incorrectly and generally attacking me. [You started the attack, buddy -- this is an open war. You never came to us negotiating peace or at least an attempt to try to understand us, but put up a site with private information which could wreck lives. Even if Warren were flat out wrong on his attacks, I believe his responses to be human and understandable.] (Personal comment: reading the short "Repent." comment at the end of this post cracks me up, as it directly follows all of the false statements and the loose threat stating that my time is coming to an end). |
This is a post made by Christopher Warren on nccgcybercommunity about
me.
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Christopher Warren has repeatedly claimed that I have engaged in criminal activities during my research. This is false. [But we have reason to believe you could be
associating with criminals, whether you realize it or not.] He accuses me of hacking a particular NCCG member's Yahoo and Hotmail accounts in posts elsewhere as well as the one shown here. The supposed reason for my doing this was so that I could send the person email from his own email address. This is a false accusation, as I did not hack anyone's email accounts as is described. [I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.] The accusation made here and in another post that I am the individual who sent these emails to this person, which is effectively a separate accusation from the "hacking", is false. I did not send emails like the one Christopher Warren describes to any NCCG member. Additionally, I cannot identify a benefit that would have been achieved by doing this. Email sent this way would have been no more anonymous than if I had made a new Hotmail and/or Yahoo account and used that to send the mail. (Below three paragraphs edited July 6, 2006) I personally suspect that a concerned friend or family member sent this person the emails. I can't know whether or not the concerned friend or family member acquired this person's email logins, but I will point out that it is in general not necessary to hack an email account in order to send email using a forged from: address. Spammers do this all the time.
The claim that I was aware that this person was going to show up at the NCCG compound for a visit is false. [We'll believe you.] I do not know who this person is, and therefore cannot have been aware that he was coming for a visit at that time. The statements "Is he tapping our telephone conversations too? What sort of lengths is he actually going to? The man is either virulently malicious or mentally ill. " are fantasy. [Again, doubt is expressed in the question "Is . . .?"] Christopher Warren's repeated claim that Rick Ross is in some way investigating NCCG or participating in my investigation is false. [We have other reasons to believe Ross is involved.] His statement that someone paid for my Swedish translation is false. [Note the word "presumably".] |
This is a post made by
Christopher Warren on nccgcybercommunity about me.
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Christopher Warren's claim that he was at this time "getting close" to "exposing" me (IE: identifying my
real name) is believed to be false. He had at this time, to my knowledge, failed to contact anyone who does know my identity, and he and a cult member have hinted in another post about a
person they believe I am, but are wrong about. [Again, I will hand you the benefit of the doubt, but for someone who hides behind a website without at least making
themselves identifiable, there's no way either way I can confirm this. For all I know, you could be straight
out lying.] The claim that the person identified by him as "A satanist who called herself 'Anna'" is in any way "working with" me or "helping" me is false. I have never communicated with this person, have not received information from this person, and have not heard of this person before he made me aware of her.[Again, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.] It is also impossible that this person is helping me but I am unaware of who it is. I have not encountered or been assisted by former members of NCCG's message boards as he describes. As mentioned elsewhere, this has primarily been a one-man operation.[What do you mean by "primarily"? The word seems to entertain the thought that others did help "a bit". Whether you know who they are or not.] The claim that "The net is closing in on nccg_concern and his allies" was at this time false. In reality, Christopher Warren had been making statements that suggest he was on the completely wrong track. [Then Warren was simply wrong -- I don't expect him to be a perfect person.] |
This is a post made by Christopher C. Warren in nccgcybercommunity about me.
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I will not address Christopher Warren's claim that he has identified my religious beliefs. I have deliberately never included this kind of
information on my web site, as it is not meaningful information to an objective reader of my report. [Personally, I can attest that we believe in the Golden
Rule -- "Do unto others as you would have done unto you." Since you so vehemently pick at our religion, we should likewise have the right to evaluate your worldview and see if it holds
logical merit. Afterall, it is through your worldview your site is framed. All I can gather is that its largely a secular humanistic one and forces people to see us from a secular
humanist perspective. All one has to do is change the frame and the data changes.] (Personal comment: based upon my observations of Christopher Warren's writing regarding the history of NCCG, his writings on the nccg.org web site, and his posts in NCCG's message boards, I have come to the conclusion that Christopher Warren's interest in my religious orientation is related solely to his desire to personally attack me in writing for the benefit of NCCG members). [Well, you can likewise be fairly certain we will be honest where your beliefs do hold merit.] The meaning intended in the continuation of the sentence "...and anti-Christian like the Rick Ross Institute (so-called) whose goal is to 'deprogram' Christians" is not fully understandable to me. If he is accusing me of being an "anti-christian", and stating that one of the characteristics of an "anti-christian" is that they have a goal of "deprogramming" mainstream christians, this is a false statement about me. Other than this, I cannot assume that I understand exactly what Christopher Warren means by "anti-christian". In a general sense, I deny performing activities which would cause a reasonable person to identify me as an "anti-christian" [As if its completely "reasonable" to listen to Concern. The assumption is made in this sentence.]. Christopher Warren's claim that a group of people are creating material for my web site is false. In reality, the only person other than myself whose words or writing appear on my web site (other than quoted NCCG material) is the friend who performed the translation, and this person's role was strictly limited to translation. This person did not author any of my web site material directly. The claim that the person named "Anna" (who was referenced in another post) contributed in any way to my research or web site is false. At the time these statements were made by Christopher Warren (June 5, 2006), I did not know who the person he calls "Z" was. He had not contributed to my research and absolutely wrote no portions of my web site. For additional information regarding later contact which did occur with "Z" (beginning July 18, 2006), see z.html. The person who is referenced by Christopher Warren as "a 'believer', who is venting..." has been referenced in other message board posts. I have never communicated with the referenced person, I do not know who he is. The only things I know about him are based on the descriptions of him provided by Christopher Warren and another NCCG member in the message board, and he may have been referenced in later emails received from "Z" (see z.html). The claim that the "a 'believer', who is venting..." person wrote part of my web site is false. All of my web site was authored by me, with the obvious exception of quoted NCCG material. His claim that he would be revealing my "full identity" proved to be false, he did no such thing. I do not understand what he meant by referencing my "hacking aids", but it sounds like part of his continued accusations that I am hacking his email, instant messages, and maybe even telephone conversations. These accusations are false. It is not clear to me what Christopher Warren meant when he called me a "a Rick Ross look-alike". For what it is worth, I do not physically resemble Rick Ross and could not be considered an associate of Rick Ross. [I think he reasonably assumed you are using Ross's criteria, as evidenced from the main page on your site and borrowed his worldview.] The claim that I will soon have a criminal record, presumably related to my research of NCCG, is believed to be false, because to the best of my knowledge I have not broken any laws during the course of my research. |
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post made by Christopher C. Warren in nccgcybercommunity that included comments about me.
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Christopher Warren's comment that the newspaper reporter's primary source of information was my web site
was false. It was even independently demonstrated to be false when the newspaper article came out, as the article's content was very different from the content on my web site.
[Warren never said the primary source of information was your website. He said he "assumes".] The claim that I have never spoken with NCCG members is false. [I thought this was a one man operation?] His statement that I have not revealed my identity due to fear of him suing me is false. As I mentioned in another area of this web site, I have not revealed my identity due to concerns about my personal safety. [From the NCCG Mafia?] Every single statement on my web site is based upon legally-obtained source material, and I believe I have a very defensible position if I were to ever end up in court. [Down to last names, living arrangements, paternity . . . I wouldn't be surprised if you even had Social Security numbers. Legalities isn't the issue. Ethics are.] If I were officially challenged about the content of my web site in a court-like environment, I would present my source material as part of my defense. I believe that the strength of my source material would prove to a reasonable court [*cough* So a "reasonable" court should automatically side with Concern? *cough* Self-serving bias.] that my internet report represents an accurate description of NCCG based on my research and observations. It should be mentioned that some of my source material would be personally embarrassing for Christopher Warren, and one of the outcomes of such a court case might be my source material becoming public knowledge. Then, there is also the option of bringing in expert witnesses and possibly other kinds of witnesses, if I wanted to hit a home run [I thought this was a one man operation?]. Such a court case would be of keen interest to the Swedish media, the government of Arvika Kommun, and the local Arvika community itself. That stuff would cost some money on my part, and at this time I do not know whether or not I could request from the court that Christopher Warren be required to reimburse me for the expenses I incurred during the legal proceedings. If that is indeed the case, the idea of going to court against him sounds intriguing as opposed with scary. [What about the costs due to the emotional damage and turmoil you cause by placing our private information on a website?] I do not know if Christopher Warren would actually follow through with trying to sue me, but I am generally not afraid of him attempting it. I would spend the money required for my defense and see the outcome; why not, you know? For the reasons stated earlier, I believe that him suing me would be a tactical mistake on his part, and he would essentially screw himself if he tried it. |
Christopher Warren sent a large number of comments to a newspaper reporter in Karlstad, Sweden. He also posted these
comments in the nccgcybercommunity message board. Within these comments, he included the following paragraph which made statements about me. 3. I am assuming, with some justification, I believe, from the way your questions were formulated and the material you chose to discuss, that your primary source of 'information' was a newly created anti-NCCG website called 'NCCG_concern'. Since this is the sole website of its kind that we are aware of, I assume this is where you get your perspective of us (as you did say on the telephone to me that if I did not respond you would be writing an article based on "other sources"). I should inform you that the author of this site not only has never met with us or spoken with us, but refuses to be identified and make himself accountable, refuses to name the names of alleged complianants or supply substantiatable information, because he knows I will sue and expose him if he does. As a researcher myself, trained as a scientist at Oxford University, both in the biochemical and historical fields, I am more than aware of what constitutes bona fide research and what does not. |
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This contains at least one outright lie by Christopher C. Warren, and he makes a number of statements that would tend to lead the reader toward believing some things which I understand
to be untrue based upon my research of NCCG. Based on my source material, I believe the following statement by Christopher C. Warren to be an outright lie: "We have never asked or suggested that anyone should ever 'join' us let alone visit our so-called 'compound' because our goal is not membership statistics but bringing souls to Christ....". My source material positively indicates that at least two people were specifically targeted by Christopher C. Warren, through his use of inappropriate, undue influence, for relocation to the NCCG compound as permanent residents. There is additional evidence that two other people have probably been influenced using the same type of inappropriate, undue influence. More details regarding these situations are not being discussed at this time due to privacy concerns. [Then why should we believe it? You don't believe in Satanic Ritual Abuse due to lack of "credible evidence" when we don't provide information due to "privacy concerns". Yet you say it outright doesn't exist. You have given me reason to believe you cannot be persuaded on the matter. Therefore, I take your "details" with a grain of salt until you can prove them.] Christopher Warren makes a few statements within the paragraph that are intended to make the group look harmless. These statements involve the interactions the group has with its many "fringe" members, IE: people who are only moderately involved with NCCG, usually on an internet-only basis, or may include brief personal visits. Christopher Warren appears to imply in those passages that either that:
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This is a post that references my web site as part of a "whole slander campaign" (does not reference me directly)
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Christopher Warren's statement about a "vicious smear campaign" that included both internet and the press
can only reference this "nccg_concern" web site (which received extensive updates on May 20 and June 2, 2006) , and a newspaper article
published by the Nya Wermlands-Tidningen (a local
Swedish newspaper) on June 10, 2006. [We have evidence that covens were involved in the latter, but can't reveal this due to "privacy concerns", as Concern calls
them.] His claim that these two developments were the result of an effort by "covens" (groups of satan-worshippers) is false. [Really? Documented IM convos I've had with insiders in these covens proves that at least in regards to NWT, its true.] I'm uniquely aware of the driving forces behind the creation of my own web site, and additionally, have become aware of the reasons behind the initial research and subsequent publication of the newspaper article. [*cough* Do you trust EVERYONE you speak to?] Influence by "covens" absolutely does not match up, by any stretch of imagination, with the facts in either of these cases. [Although if I were a Satanist news reporter, I don't think I'd tell you I was a Satanist either. In fact, I would probably come off as very professional. And even if it wasn't him in particular, I am 99.8% certain someone else was pulling the strings or pushing the article to be written.] |
This paragraph was included in a section of the nccgcybercommunity web site named "Urgent_Needs!". It has every
indication of having been written by Christopher Warren, although it's authorship is unsigned. It contains a few statements about my web site. "B. Media Deffamation: As most of our readers know, much of our ministry involving helping those most Christians won't touch, and which most of the world refuses to believe exists, helping the victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse. This summer the covens, through their agents and those coming under their influence, began a vicious smear campaign against us both on the internet and in the press which you can follow in this Group in these two threads :...." |
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Christopher Warren appears to be saying that I have no functional morals, and this is false. [No, Mr. Warren said you have no "self-declared morals" -- i.e. you
hide
them.] His claim that I am an "atheist-on-a-mission to 'rescue people from religion'" is false. This description can only apply to activities, and my activities and behaviors could not be described by a reasonable person as matching this description.[Again, notice how he expects "reasonable" people to agree with him.] He appears to be implying (again) that Rick Ross or people associated with him (referenced as "Ross & Co.") are in some way assisting my research efforts. If this is the case, it is a false statement. [But Ross does allow you to use his boards as a stomping grounds.] His claim that I am "not interested in the truth or people" is false. [Then why did you attack us and post up private information? You surely don't seem interested in us AS PEOPLE.] He references someone as "a polygamy-hopeful man associated with 'Christian' militias (who are prepared to insurrect violently against the government...." as having been "recruited" as one of my site contributors. At the time he made this statement (July 20, 2006), I had not made contact with a person whose life situation appears to me to match that description, and he had not contributed to my web site. A side note: I have recently (July 18) been contacted by a person who is referenced by Christopher Warren as "Z", and this description by Christopher Warren could potentially be referencing one of his associates (but whom at this time I have still never communicated with, directly or indirectly). The further implication that the above-mentioned "polygamy-hopeful man" is a "co-writer" for my web site is false. [Until you used his e-mails.] The statement that he provided some kind of "objective fuel" to me is false. His claim that I have "an atheistic anti-religious agenda" is false. My working definition of "agenda" in my assertation is supplied below, as indicated by www.dictionary.com:
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This post was made by Christopher Warren in the nccgcybercommunity message board in the thread: http://groups.msn.com/nccgcybercommunity /nccgcritics.msnw?action=get_message& mview=0&ID_Message=6806 . It contains statements about me.
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When I read Christopher
Warren's response to the NCCG member's question, I could not help but wonder if it was intended as a joke. [It was. And for the record, my
post is the one above Warren's.] The original question appeared to be presented in seriousness, and there are a number of members in his board who will be affected by his saying
things like this, even if it were presented in jest. For this reason. I have to address these statements individually. The list of things I am supposed to believe about this type of NCCG member is shown below. My actual position on the use of each item is stated after each one. Many of these positions can also be verified by their inclusion or non-inclusion within the research areas of this nccg_concern web site.
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The following series of posts in the nccgcybercommunity message board consists of an NCCG member asking a question about my position regarding certain NCCG members. Christopher Warren
then responds with a long list of things. It is visible within the thread: http://groups.msn.com/ nccgcybercommunity/nccgcritics.msnw?action=get_ message&mview=0&ID_Message=5907 .
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Christopher Warren does not actually know who I am nor what my religious background is, and I have refused to clarify it for him. It has been demonstrated in a
prior incident that his primary reason for wanting to know this kind of thing is so that he can use it as part of further character assassinations directed at me. [Again, the Golden Rule] Christopher Warren is probably referencing my new Bible study when he mentions me "quoting the Bible". There is a big difference between "quoting the Bible" and my Bible study, so in this respect, he has lied about the nature of the content on my web site. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing in my Bible study (or in fact on my web site) that attacks Christianity (although it does conclusively show that Christopher Warren should be regarded as a False Prophet by Bible-believing Christians).["Should" by "Bible-believing Christians"? I love how Mr. Concern makes false assumptions about what people "should" do with his information in order to be "reasonable", "Bible-believing", etc. I have written much on OUR Bible Study section which I BELIEVE (note the difference here) contradicts Concern's criterion according to how I understand Scripture. How reasonable it is or isn't should probably (again, another difference here) be taken on whether or not either of our criterion is Scriptural and which of the two is the MOST Scriptural.] It is difficult to understand all of the implications and meanings behind his statements that I attack Christians. My activities could not be judged to "attack Christians" as a category of people or attempt to dismantle their faith of Christianity to them, if that is what he meant. Christopher Warren has repeatedly claimed that I have associates who are helping me research NCCG and even wrote parts of my web site (such as a "Satanist" named "Anna", someone named "Z" (now understood to be Chad Zimmerman), and an associate of "Z"). This is a fantasy. The negative insinuations contained within this statement are a fantasy: "He evidently has a great deal of time on his hands unless he has been employed by someone to do this (perhaps he's unemployed)." [We do believe you have a great deal of time on your hands. Likewise, Warren never made the accusation you were paid off -- he assumed it was possible.] "He goes to a great deal of trouble making, we suppose, websites advertising his anti-website," is a fantasy. [Again, another reasonable assumption on Warren's part, not an accusation.] Christopher Warren's statements:
"He is linked to the Rick Ross Institute whose founder, a Jewish atheist/agnostic (who thinks all Messianic Jews
are cultists because you can't be both a Jew and a follower of Yah'shua, says he ... yet does not regard Mormonism as a cult), has been found guilty in American courts of fraud
and kidnapping (which he has tried to dismiss on the grounds that those who sued him - the Scientologists - are a cult themselves, therefore somehow 'invalidating' the court
decisions as if it matters who instigated proceedings for what is undeniably a series of criminal offences), neither of which he is repentant of and has indictated, in regard to the
latter, that he would do it again" is fantasy. [But again, Ross does allow you to use his boards as stomping grounds.]
The statement:
"He refuses to identify himself or
enter into a debate with anyone here unless they are showing signs of doubting this work (the potential stragglers), which he has been offered more than once, and
keeps incognito on the pretext that it might endanger his life (NCCG Maffia no doubt). " is jam-packed with lies mixed with two statements of truth, making for the worst kind of lie. It is correct that:
Christopher Warren's statement that "He is desperate to find someone who can 'expose' to prove his bogus theories." is a lie. I already have definitive proof of all of the statements on my web site, including those made in fastfacts.html, and Christopher Warren himself even knows this. These statements :
Please note that mistakes within statements presented to be "prophecies" remain inexcusable in the context of the Bible. [But opinions are permitted. Paul did this frequently, especially in 1 Corinthians 7, after presenting several statements he stated were his mere opinion. And then, in the last verse, he seems unsure whether or not he has the Ruach haQodesh (Holy Spirit). I've often been able to seperate Warren's opinions from his actual prophecies.] The statements "He works on the bases of numerous false assumptions and has little grasp of the difference between the Old and New Covenants, jusging us on the basis of religious criteria that were canceleld by the cross (which he doesn't believe in)" is false. This gives me the hunch that Christopher Warren may be telling his members that the Biblical requirement to not remove False Prophets from your midst is no longer in effect. [Read the Bible Study which was largely written by me. I presented this case to Warren and it is for this reason we believe your criteria to be flawed.]If this is the case, I encourage any people who have been told this to seek out religious teaching from someone other than the actual believed-False-Prophet in regard to this determination. [Yep. They come to me.] It is only natural that a False Prophet would have an argument against the position that he is, indeed, a False Prophet. The statement "His world view does not allow for the supernatural which is perhaps his greatest assumption because all supernatural phenomena are 'explained' as various forms of psychosis" is false. [And yet you continuely make a mockery of the Garden, something you don't understand, and state its a form of hypnosis when those who have seen it and experienced it will insist it is not.] The statement "Certainly he does not judge by the standards he judges himself by which is, in my opinion, the only criterion that can be accepted when two people of different belief systems come into disagreement to debate (not that he actually debates) except with fellow atheists, pagans and uninfomed Christians he hopes to influence." has confused me but the gist of it sounds false. [I.E. The Golden Rule. If you're going to judge us on your criteria, why don't you judge yourself? And why do you refuse to test the Bible on your same criteria? Is it because you know that as soon as you do, your criteria will be seen as sloppy, because the same criteria you often use to judge us would also disprove the Bible, if at all possible?] The statement "Answering him, even with a bit of humour, results in automatic dissection and analysis of every word we speak with rigorous definitions from his dictionary (his own bible)." is a misrepresentation of my intentions. He is referring to my response to the comments shown in table row 10 of this web page (one table row above this one). The reasons I felt it was necessary to respond to that set of accusations is explained there. [And they have been noted.] |
Christopher Warren made these statements about me in the groups.msn.com/nccgcybercommunity MSN group.
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